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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 03:30 PM
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DIY Camber Adj?

new f250 coils in my f150 got about 1.5" of lift in the front but bad positive camber. Has anyone adjusted the camber themselves? I assume all i will need is this? Ford TTB Adjustable Camber / Caster Alignment Bushings · Superlift · www.superlift.com
 
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Sure, you can do it. But when you get it wrong, it will eat your tires costing you more money. Just spend the 100 and have it aligned
 
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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well i been driving for a few days, noticed it is quickly wearing the tire, so i parked it until i can get it aligned.. Figure i would try and save $$$ if possible.. 100$ is not that bad though hopefully i can find someone to do it that cheap
 
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 04:31 AM
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I'd love to find a shop that could do it for $100 and get it right the first time. Went through that with my last truck, spent over $200, and it still wasn't right.

This time around, I got adjustable bushings like the ones you posted, and did it myself. Took half a day of my time, but it's right and there's no tire wear.

I used a level floor, an angle gauge on the 4wd hub, a toe adjustment jig I made out of a 2x6 and a couple of nails, chalk to mark the tires for toe adjustment, and a tape measure.

It's relatively easy to do physically, but it's a pain in the a$$ time wise. Camber adjustments affect toe, so, make camber adjustments, roll truck back and forth to settle suspension, check camber again, correct as needed. When it's close, check toe and adjust as needed.

I did spend $60 to have a shop check it when I was done. They said they couldn't have gotten it any better, and it would have taken them at least two hours to do it, maybe more.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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So you went through all the trouble of aligning it yourself, then payed the amount it cost to get a professional alignment just to have it checked for accuracy? Every half-way decent shop should be able to perform an alignment correctly. If you find out they can't after you have payed for the alignment, get your money back and never use them again! If I were you I would purchase the camber bushings yourself so you wont be paying the shops mark up. Should only be around $60 If you install the bushings yourself.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by garthneddy
So you went through all the trouble of aligning it yourself, then payed the amount it cost to get a professional alignment just to have it checked for accuracy? Every half-way decent shop should be able to perform an alignment correctly. If you find out they can't after you have payed for the alignment, get your money back and never use them again! If I were you I would purchase the camber bushings yourself so you wont be paying the shops mark up. Should only be around $60 If you install the bushings yourself.
No, I paid 1/4 the amount it most likely would have cost to check it.

Most shops around here charge by the hour to align a TTB. The ones that charge a flat rate only adjust toe.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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Thats some crap. I would never pay someone more money to align my truck just because it had TTB. Do they also charge more for I beams or any other suspension design?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 05:53 AM
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Thats some crap. I would never pay someone more money to align my truck just because it had TTB. Do they also charge more for I beams or any other suspension design?
No idea, because I've never asked.

Seems like most shops around here just want to set toe and call it a day.

I made the mistake of taking it to a local Midas, who then informed me that because my truck was improperly "lifted", I needed drop brackets, the truck was unsafe, and they couldn't release it back to me to drive. Uh, no. I'll take my truck back now.

Took the SHO to another shop here that told me they couldn't properly set toe because the car is lowered and they ran out of threads on the inner tie rods. Turns out their tech was turning the tie rods the wrong way...

Maybe I need to move to a smarter town?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by garthneddy
Thats some crap. I would never pay someone more money to align my truck just because it had TTB. Do they also charge more for I beams or any other suspension design?
There is a lot more work and parts involved. That's like saying if shouldn't cost more to replace rotors on a 4x4
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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There is a lot more work and parts involved. That's like saying if shouldn't cost more to replace rotors on a 4x4
The only thing you have to do thats more labor intensive on a 4x4 of this vintage is seperate it from the hub. Thats maybe an extra 10 minutes, and since most shops charge by the hour it should not be relfected in the overall labor cost.

What parts does a TTB need to be aligned? I have had many TTB trucks aligned around here and it was always the same price as any other vehicle I have owned, TTB or not.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by garthneddy
The only thing you have to do thats more labor intensive on a 4x4 of this vintage is seperate it from the hub. Thats maybe an extra 10 minutes, and since most shops charge by the hour it should not be relfected in the overall labor cost.

What parts does a TTB need to be aligned? I have had many TTB trucks aligned around here and it was always the same price as any other vehicle I have owned, TTB or not.
The camber bushings get replaced. To align a TTB or TIB, you hook up the sensors to the wheels, do a runout compensation, get your readings, then if all it needs is the toe set, set that, unhook and done. For camber and/or caster adjustment, you then jack it back up, pull the heads off the wheels, remove the wheels, remove the old camber bushing, calculate the change you need, select the proper bushing, install the new bushing, bolt the wheel back on, hang the heads, comp the heads, set truck back on turntables, set the toe, then unhook again.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Doesnt every TTB have adjustable bushings from the factory? I know every TTB I have worked on had factory adjustable bushings, which means that no parts are needed and no extra labor needs to be done in comparison to any other type of suspension design.

All I was trying to say is if the term TTB scares your shops into charging more, you need to find someone else to work on your truck.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by garthneddy
Doesnt every TTB have adjustable bushings from the factory? I know every TTB I have worked on had factory adjustable bushings, which means that no parts are needed and no extra labor needs to be done in comparison to any other type of suspension design.

All I was trying to say is if the term TTB scares your shops into charging more, you need to find someone else to work on your truck.
No, they have a fixed bushing with the degreee offset stamped in it. Those adjustable bushings suck. You install them in the (hopefully) correct orientation. If you ever need to adjust them or you get them in wrong you can't just rotate them. You have to try to remove them without destroying them and try again. After they have been in there for any length of time, there is almost no chance of getting them out in one piece. You can buy a fixed bushing for a fraction of the cost.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'd gladly pay extra, like I did with my 93, if the alignment was correct.
 
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