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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:20 AM
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Front axle leaking

Hello fellow EX owners. Its been awhile since I have been on. Everything has been running great for me until I found my passenger side front axle leaking fluid. I'm sure something has been posted on here but I have limited access to internet right now and need to know what I am getting into to change the seals. From what I have found there is an inner seal in the pumpkin and then an outer seal and dust cover. Are both of these easy to change? Are there any special tools needed? Do I need to remove the gears in the pumpkin? If so, is this difficult and any special tools required for this?

I know you guys will respond with great info so looking forward to the replys. Thanks!

Oh, mine is a 2001 V10-6.8, 4x4 no mods at this point.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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Can anybody help?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Can anybody help?
Hard to change but I don't know if you get to it through the center section (diff). There is a cone near the diff that guides the axle through the seal and there is just a dust seal at the outer end of the banjo tube. If both axles are unlocked and you haven't been riding at a steep angle they shouldn't leak since the oil level is below the bottom of the inner seal. Check your banjo air vent, unlock both hubs, drive somewhat level, check fluid level, and see if it still leaks. You don't want to tackle that job unless you have to.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Where is the air vent located? Is that the rubber hose that runs down to the pumpkin?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Where is the air vent located? Is that the rubber hose that runs down to the pumpkin?
Yes...............
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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So if is clogged, would this have caused the seal to go out? I am positive that it is diff fluid. It is very thin. Is this not a common thing that needs replacing? Usually there are more responses on here.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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So if is clogged, would this have caused the seal to go out? I am positive that it is diff fluid. It is very thin. Is this not a common thing that needs replacing? Usually there are more responses on here.
If the hubs aren't locked nothing will push it out, and not common. See my post.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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So if is clogged, would this have caused the seal to go out? I am positive that it is diff fluid. It is very thin. Is this not a common thing that needs replacing? Usually there are more responses on here.
If the hubs aren't locked nothing will push it out, and not common. See my post.

What more do you want?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kconrad
So if is clogged, would this have caused the seal to go out? I am positive that it is diff fluid. It is very thin. Is this not a common thing that needs replacing? Usually there are more responses on here.
It's hard to say, but I've seen theories in the past that indicate overfull condition or clogged vents can cause seal problems. Not sure if this is likely or not though.

You may have better luck posting this question in the Super Duty forum. There are lots more people that frequent that forum and someone is more likely to be able to help. You also should take a look at THIS THREAD in the Super Duty forum, as it details the repair for the problem you're having. Doesn't look easy though.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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OP; Anytime you can't find enough in here go to the Pick-up forum and try there next. There aren't a lot of people that have dug that deeply into the banjos. Nothing is turning in there when the hubs aren't locked and the oil line is below the seals.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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EXv10, I did see your earlier post. I am just asking questions based on that post. Just trying to go through all the possibilities before I tear into it. Everything is free in the front end. I did have it in 4-wheel a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to back my trailer up in my damp yard and it was full of firewood. And then a few days ago is when I noticed it leaking and I checked last night and the whole right side underneath is wet where it has splattered while driving. I have not checked the diff fluid yet to see if it is low again.

It does not look like an easy job but I called a local garage and they want almost $1000 to do it. I can get the parts and tools and do it for less than $400. I just want to make sure there is not something I am missing.

I appreciate your help and I will post in the Super Duty to see what responses I get.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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I had this problem

My right hub was locked because the it vibrated the axle. To be sure the hub was not locked I took the clip that holds the front hub out and pulled it off then it released.That meant the the hub was not working properly.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kconrad
EXv10, I did see your earlier post. I am just asking questions based on that post. Just trying to go through all the possibilities before I tear into it. Everything is free in the front end. I did have it in 4-wheel a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to back my trailer up in my damp yard and it was full of firewood. And then a few days ago is when I noticed it leaking and I checked last night and the whole right side underneath is wet where it has splattered while driving. I have not checked the diff fluid yet to see if it is low again.

It does not look like an easy job but I called a local garage and they want almost $1000 to do it. I can get the parts and tools and do it for less than $400. I just want to make sure there is not something I am missing.

I appreciate your help and I will post in the Super Duty to see what responses I get.
By the looks of the post in SD the seal can be replaced with standard tools through the center section. You don't need to replace the nylon cone but the axles have to come out.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kconrad
EXv10, I did see your earlier post. I am just asking questions based on that post. Just trying to go through all the possibilities before I tear into it. Everything is free in the front end. I did have it in 4-wheel a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to back my trailer up in my damp yard and it was full of firewood. And then a few days ago is when I noticed it leaking and I checked last night and the whole right side underneath is wet where it has splattered while driving. I have not checked the diff fluid yet to see if it is low again.

It does not look like an easy job but I called a local garage and they want almost $1000 to do it. I can get the parts and tools and do it for less than $400. I just want to make sure there is not something I am missing.

I appreciate your help and I will post in the Super Duty to see what responses I get.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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I completed this project last weekend. It wasn't too difficult just time consuming. The worst part was getting the axles out. I tore up the outer seals getting them out but I had bought new ones to replace so it was ok.
 
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