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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 07:55 AM
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The new rules?

Truck is in the shop in a million pieces getting the head studs and new oil cooler put in. My new SCT is at home waiting for the truck to get back. When these are all together, what are my new rules? The old ones were no EGTs over 1300, no boost over 25, EOT/ECT difference less than 15. Lots of stuff to watch while towing. Any of those numbers to watch going to change as a result of the studs?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:14 AM
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nope same rules if you ant to keep it out of the shop
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
nope same rules if you ant to keep it out of the shop
So no driving like an idiot? One thing I noticed when pulling heavy was that it didn't really change my EGTs whether my Edge was on level 5 or level zero (stock). I guess working hard is working hard, no matter what program is driving the system.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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So no driving like an idiot? One thing I noticed when pulling heavy was that it didn't really change my EGTs whether my Edge was on level 5 or level zero (stock). I guess working hard is working hard, no matter what program is driving the system.
If you are towing with your Edge on level 5 then you really know nothing about these trucks. Firstly, that is one of the worst programmers on the market for these trucks if you're driving an automatic..... secondly, it's kind of common sense not to overdo it when towing...... especially by placing your programmer in the top setting. Honestly, if you continue towing on your programmers highest setting you are going to be replacing engine parts /engine or a transmission...... not too mention the rest of your drive-train is not going to like you very much either.

If you decide to keep the Edge than dump it down low when towing or put it on the "Tow" setting. Myself I would dump that thing altogether and get an SCT with Matt's custom tunes from Gearheads. I have had both and I dropped the Edge after reading all the negative feedback about it...... the difference between the 2 programmers is night and day!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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If you are towing with your Edge on level 5 then you really know nothing about these trucks. Firstly, that is one of the worst programmers on the market for these trucks if you're driving an automatic..... secondly, it's kind of common sense not to overdo it when towing...... especially by placing your programmer in the top setting. Honestly, if you continue towing on your programmers highest setting you are going to be replacing engine parts /engine or a transmission...... not too mention the rest of your drive-train is not going to like you very much either.

If you decide to keep the Edge than dump it down low when towing or put it on the "Tow" setting. Myself I would dump that thing altogether and get an SCT with Matt's custom tunes from Gearheads. I have had both and I dropped the Edge after reading all the negative feedback about it...... the difference between the 2 programmers is night and day!
Reread my original post, and my second one for that matter.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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So no driving like an idiot? One thing I noticed when pulling heavy was that it didn't really change my EGTs whether my Edge was on level 5 or level zero (stock). I guess working hard is working hard, no matter what program is driving the system.
My apologies.... I had overlooked your new SCT programmer from the the first post. However the second post sounds as though you had been pulling loads both in the high setting as well as the low setting... Not good no matter which programmer you have.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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My apologies.... I had overlooked your new SCT programmer from the the first post. However the second post sounds as though you had been pulling loads both in the high setting as well as the low setting... Not good no matter which programmer you have.
No problem here. How I found this info out was while pulling 16k (yes, I know that's too much) and notice my temps were getting too high. When I realized I had forgotten to turn off the Edge, I used the adjust on the fly to turn it off. The temps did not change. I had to settle for 60 mph to keep it cool. I agree with what you said about the Edge. Hence the STC.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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It wont adjust on the Fly

Its like your Home computer it needs to resart for the new setting to take affect
this why SOF tunners kill the 6.0L
when you tow do it as close to stock as possible

Hope you have fuel system upgrades going in to or you may eat injectors fast
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
It wont adjust on the Fly

Its like your Home computer it needs to resart for the new setting to take affect
this why SOF tunners kill the 6.0L
when you tow do it as close to stock as possible

Hope you have fuel system upgrades going in to or you may eat injectors fast
Thought the shift on the fly was part of what made the Edge a problem?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
It wont adjust on the Fly

Its like your Home computer it needs to resart for the new setting to take affect
this why SOF tunners kill the 6.0L
when you tow do it as close to stock as possible

Hope you have fuel system upgrades going in to or you may eat injectors fast
Just reread your last line...I hope you're not implying I need to upgrade my fuel system more than the blue spring. This is costing about enough already.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselVol
Just reread your last line...I hope you're not implying I need to upgrade my fuel system more than the blue spring. This is costing about enough already.
there are a lot of people on here running matt's tunes with a blue
spring, and correct filters.

some of the tuners will change the fuel delivery on the fly, and some
won't. i had the banks IQ, and judging by seat of the pants, and
tailpipe, it did change fueling on the fly.

right now, i'm running stock everything... in between tuning solutions.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselVol
Thought the shift on the fly was part of what made the Edge a problem?
Yes^^

Originally Posted by DieselVol
Just reread your last line...I hope you're not implying I need to upgrade my fuel system more than the blue spring. This is costing about enough already.
You pay to play thing

You need a Gauge for fuel PSI

You might be OK you might Not IDK

But the Tune is Going to Incress Fuel Pulse width and HPO I would think for the HP Increase

one thing affects others with such a presision Machine

But with OEM Inject you probably OK
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fulthrotl
there are a lot of people on here running matt's tunes with a blue
spring, and correct filters.

some of the tuners will change the fuel delivery on the fly, and some
won't. i had the banks IQ, and judging by seat of the pants, and
tailpipe, it did change fueling on the fly.

right now, i'm running stock everything... in between tuning solutions.
My "gauge" was the seat of the pants as well. I change the level occasionally just for grins and there is a definite change in throttle response when I do. Based on past experience, I think the program did go to stock that day. My point is that pulling that heavy, uphill at 70 mph, EGTs are going to go too high no matter what program you're running.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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To clarify further, perhaps I should have said that changing to the stock program didn't make ENOUGH difference, rather than saying it made NO difference. I still had to back off to keep my EGTs in an acceptable range.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Matt will give you a good tow tune with a "race" tune. Only put the race tune on the truck when you won't be towing for a while. Otherwise I would stick to the tow tune. Should still be nice, but won't be crazy.

If I stomp on it, my fuel pressure will dip slightly even with a regulated return, so I don't really do that any more. For BIG power you need a bigger fuel pump and maybe bigger fuel lines (or at least upgraded banjo bolts) to protect your injectors. Towing too heavy with race tunes will kill your transmission. You still want to be pretty careful. - Dan
 
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