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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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Question Mirror changes and questions

My truck has the mirror style on the left and I would like to use the style on the right. Do both styles have the same mounting pattern?

Are there names for these styles?

Does the style on the right have a detent or stop on the mounting bar that would keep it perpendicular to the door - like when folding out?

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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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The mirror on the left and right are referred to as Type 7 and Type 9, respectively. The latter is commonly referred to as a "Swing Lock" mirrors.

Dunno if Type 9s have a detente.... I tossed the ones that were on my rig cuz they were bent.. I kept the heads though.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 11:42 PM
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I replaced the Type 7s on my Crew with Type 9s. Mounting patterns are the same. Type 9 does have a detente on the arm in the centered position.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 12:10 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by VocaTexas
I replaced the Type 7s on my Crew with Type 9s. Mounting patterns are the same.
Mounting patterns are not the same because there are two different type 9 low mount Swing-Lok mirrors.

D4TZ-17696-A .. Low Mount Swing-Lok Mirror / Right/Left is the same, has flat upper/lower mounting brackets.

Upper bracket has (2) mounting holes on a 2 3/4" bolt center / Lower bracket has (2) mounting holes on a 2" bolt center / Arm has a 7 19/32" span.
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D6TZ-17696-A .. Low Mount Swing-Lok Mirror / Right/Left is the same, has curved upper/lower mounting brackets.

Upper/lower brackets have (2) mounting holes, 2" between centers / Arm has a 6 11/32" span.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 12:59 AM
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Number Dummy says how the book says it's done, We say what can be done...usually from experience.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1977MudRat
Number Dummy says how the book says it's done, We say what can be done...usually from experience.
Two different types of low mount Swing-Lok mirrors with two different types of mounting brackets with two different arm spans.

Mounting holes will not line up unless replacement mirrors match the originals. Otherwise, the holes in the doors will have to be filled in and the doors spot painted.

This info is from 40 + years of Ford parts experience. How many years of Ford parts experience do you have?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 05:53 AM
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Number Dummy says how the book says it's done, We say what can be done...usually from experience.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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I will trade you a set of the mirrors you want for a set of the mirrors you have.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1977MudRat
Number Dummy says how the book says it's done, We say what can be done...usually from experience.
I myself have no experience in the parts business, and just a fraction of the hands-on experience of most on this board. That being said, I appreciate hearing both sides (the book and hands-on), so keep it coming Number Dummy.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Where will y'all find any NOS (New Old Stock) D4TZ-17696-A Low Mount Swing-Lok Mirror Kits?

Obsolete, no Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

Within the last couple of days, an FTE member (not I) bought all 64 from an ebay seller that was offering them for $30.00 each. A roaring bargain, considering that the last MSRP was $98.00, dealer cost was $65.33.

There are 18 D6TZ-17696-A Low Mount Swing-Lok Mirror Kits available NOS ~ Last MSRP: $58.33, dealer cost: $35.00.

D4TZ-17723-A mirror head (came with the mirror kit or was available by itself ~ last MSRP: $43.80/dealer cost: $26.28) is the same for both the D4TZ & D6TZ mirrors. 4 available NOS
 

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Sorry, I forgot there were two Type 9 mirrors. I've only run across brackets that interchange where I'm at. It must have been a regional thing. I honestly have never seen Type 9s with curved brackets.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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Good to know! I'll measure when I finally get my truck.

I was browsing the LMC catalog and it states the upper bracket has a 2 3/4" bolt center and the bottoms are on 2" spacing.

@lrdvdr41 - Sounds like a plan. What condition are yours in? Maybe you can PM some pictures.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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Number Dummy says how the book says it's done, We say what can be done...usually from experience.
Very disrespectful to say the least. ND is a very respected member of this forum for good reason.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Very disrespectful to say the least. ND is a very respected member of this forum for good reason.
Sometimes the rub goes both ways. No one is infallible.

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