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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Trav - Sorry, I missed your post. Someone else also said that some of the sites show the electric pumps on the 82's, but that was news to me. In fact, I don't think anyone that has chimed in has seen them in captivity. This is the first one, and my ears still ring.
I didn't think they put them in either...
I did notice on Rock Auto something about Canada..
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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I have the original receipt for the truck, sold in Grand Junction Colorado, assembled in Canada.
I have the granny 1st, 4 speed it seems like a waste because I never use the first gear except when I feel like crawling up a tree or a cement wall. it seems like it would be better to have a regular 1st and have a higher speed as a result I guess thats a conversation for another time. I am in the middle of putting the mech fuel pump in, it takes a bit of persuasion, I ran new hose with filters and as soon as I get it in I will give you all an update.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Demeron
I have the original receipt for the truck, sold in Grand Junction Colorado, assembled in Canada.
I have the granny 1st, 4 speed it seems like a waste because I never use the first gear except when I feel like crawling up a tree or a cement wall. it seems like it would be better to have a regular 1st and have a higher speed as a result I guess thats a conversation for another time. I am in the middle of putting the mech fuel pump in, it takes a bit of persuasion, I ran new hose with filters and as soon as I get it in I will give you all an update.
It seems a waste until you connect to a heavy trailer that doesn't want to go in 2nd, or bring a big boat out of the lake up a steep ramp. That's where 1st comes into play.

Awaiting your update!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Demeron
I have the original receipt for the truck, sold in Grand Junction Colorado, assembled in Canada.
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That probably explains your combination.
I would imagine your date of manufacture is mid to late 82.
Ford was getting ready to put the 460's in the 83 F350's.

Canada had tanks,etc. ready, but probably didn't have enough 460's.
Or, had an excess of the 400's.

In other words,stuff it in there, get rid of it..

Just my opinion....Trav...

BTW, the same ELECTRIC pump for the 82 F350 with the 6.6 is the SAME as the one for the 83 model 460 engine..
 

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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by truckertrav
That probably explains your combination.
I would imagine your date of manufacture is mid to late 82.
Ford was getting ready to put the 460's in the 83 F350's.

Canada had tanks,etc. ready, but probably didn't have enough 460's.
Or, had an excess of the 400's.

In other words,stuff it in there, get rid of it..

Just my opinion....Trav...

BTW, the same ELECTRIC pump for the 82 F350 with the 6.6 is the SAME as the one for the 83 model 460 engine..

That doesn't explain why the Ford Parts books list in-tank pumps for 1980-1982 400s, or the E0TZ (translates to 1980 Truck service part) prefix numbers on the sending units and pump combos.

More than likely it's just a rare combination.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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82 Ford F350 Fuel Pump - YouTube
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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Good job! The bind on the fuel pump was probably compressing the spring under the arm as the eccentric was on a high point. As long as the bolts/nuts took it down smoothly I think you are fine, but I do understand the concern.

But, I'm not sure I would put the first filter where you did as it looks like it will be hard to get to in order to replace it. I usually put it in place of the valve as that is an easy place to get to, but anywhere that you can swap it is fine.

As for priming the carb, if you want you can pour gas into the carb via the vent. But, the pump should pick the gas up pretty quickly so you can just crank it.

Last, I LOVE YOUR TRUCK! Would you mind helping me with my body work???? Wow, I love it.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
That doesn't explain why the Ford Parts books list in-tank pumps for 1980-1982 400s, or the E0TZ (translates to 1980 Truck service part) prefix numbers on the sending units and pump combos.

More than likely it's just a rare combination.
You are probably correct on that.
I was thinking (that is dangerous) it was one of those mid-year,different assembly plant type deals...

I don't have a Ford Parts book...just checked on Rock and Summit and they listed the same pumps for 82 and 83 400 and 460 engines..

Thank you for the clarification...Trav..
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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Demeron,,What an EXTREMELY AWWWSSUUMM ride..

Love that color..My 85 USED to be close to that color..Now its faded and peeling.

What type of paint and # did you use...I want to go with that one...Thank you...Trav..
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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Yes, Demeron, I agree, that thing looks GOOD!!!!

Well, to begin with, I agree with Gary in that you're probably OK with the pump installation if you got everything lined up and installed smoothly. There is an eccentric mounted on the cam that spins around and pushes the arm down:






In real life:





Anyhow, two things in your video jumped out at me...

1) You showed us your in-tank pump & sending unit.... an aside here, but can you PLEASE find any numbers or insignias on it and post them here? Pretty please?

OK, back to my point... you explained about how you routed your hoses. My point is, if that was a factory installation, it would have been steel tubing with short pieces of rubber hoses at the ends to connect to the mating devices.



2) I'm not entirely positive, maybe it was just my perception, but it looked to me like you had that plastic filter installed backwards? Isn't there an arrow on them that indicates FLOW THISAWAY -> ?

Once again, that things looks good! And, thank you for *talking* in your video! We see too many out here that are just of an engine, or an exhaust, or some such - without any sort of editorial comment. Speech helps greatly IMHO.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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Chris - Great post! That will help him understand about the eccentric far better than the 2 or 3 words I used. I'd rep you but I'm in jail. But, couldn't you find a picture of a pump for a 351M/400 instead of the Wheezy one?

Anyway, he can clearly see that if the eccentric is at the high point relative to the arm he won't be able to get the pump all the way to the block by hand, unless he's Charles Atlas, as there's a hefty spring below the arm in the pump. But, the bolts/studs can do it easily, so if that's what he was feeling and it went on smoothly as the spring compressed he's fine.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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But, couldn't you find a picture of a pump for a 351M/400 instead of the Wheezy one?
I was gonna say it, but I'm glad to see you beat me to it.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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thanks for the praise on the truck guys! I thought you might like it, i picked a dodge color for my truck, the paint code is PB5, I did epoxy primer, surfacer, block sanded it, sprayed 3 coats of paint, and 3 coats of clear, I have always thought that was a better blue than ford ever had, but I have seen a few new f150s with a nice blue on em!
I can see now that i should have picked a better spot for the filter... dang it! there was an arrow on it and it is facing the right way from the tank to the pump, there was about one to 2 feet of hose and then the steel lines running along the frame then hose again at the selector valve, then steel lines, and hoses then steel lines to the carb. I have a new hose to go from the pump to the carb I might have to zip tie it to keep it out of the way. I will try and look for some part numbers on the old pump , I figured I would turn the engine over with a socket and wrench and make sure the pump is not binding. I think it should be good though from the diagram and pictures of the mechanical pump (thank you) i think we should be good to go. I really appreciate all of your help Im a better body man than mechanic Im afraid.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 10:06 PM
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UPDATE

So for you guys who would like to know... The truck started and ran on its own today!!! I unfortunately have a gas leak that resulted in a small fire,,, anyone know what air filter fits in the air cleaner? I cant read the number on whats left of the ashes... I will have to search for fuel leaks tomorrow. as far as I can tell on the stock fuel sending unit the numbers were ep and 401, that was all i could read. Thought you would like to know, Thanks for all your help fella's!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Hey, glad it ran! But, fires are really bad news. Glad it was contained to the air filter as I sure wouldn't want that pretty truck hurt.
 
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