Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

4X4 problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 01:13 AM
  #1  
BAMAFAN2169's Avatar
BAMAFAN2169
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
4X4 problem

Hey everyone I am trying to figure out what is going on with my front axle on my garage truck the 82 F 150. I put the truck in four wheel drive and turn the wheels in any direction while driving and one of the axles starts popping almost like a semi-automatic shotgun going off under the truck. I have changed out U-joints and I don't see any slack on the drive shafts of the axle or on the drive train. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what have you done to fix it. BTW it has a Dana 44 front axle I am not sure what is on the rear but I will do some more research and re-post that information if it is needed. If I haven't given enough information for a diagnosis please let me know what other information is needed and I will get it posted ASAP. Thanks to all who have any insight and are willing to help out with this annoying problem.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 03:37 AM
  #2  
joshofalltrades's Avatar
joshofalltrades
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,560
Likes: 1
that sounds like the u-joints on the axle shaft have gone bad. my understanding of what you wrote is that you changed the joints on the shaft between the transfer case and the differential, but haven't thought about the ones from differential to hub. those are your problem.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:15 AM
  #3  
bashby's Avatar
bashby
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,437
Likes: 4
From: Charles Town, W bygod Va
Could be an automatic hub broken
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 07:29 AM
  #4  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,966
Likes: 2,728
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
I hope you are not making sharp turns on dry pavement in 4x4. None of them will stand up to that. I think these AWD systems on these new SUV's are confusing people. You can't do it with the old time 4x4 systems except the old full-time transfer cases.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 11:40 AM
  #5  
BAMAFAN2169's Avatar
BAMAFAN2169
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by joshofalltrades
that sounds like the u-joints on the axle shaft have gone bad. my understanding of what you wrote is that you changed the joints on the shaft between the transfer case and the differential, but haven't thought about the ones from differential to hub. those are your problem.
I changed out all of the U-joints even on the dif to hub there where two on the passenger side and one on the driver side. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that with my initial post.
 

Last edited by BAMAFAN2169; Oct 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM. Reason: revision
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 11:43 AM
  #6  
BAMAFAN2169's Avatar
BAMAFAN2169
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by bashby
Could be an automatic hub broken
I have manual hub lockers would that be the same as the automatic hub.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 11:47 AM
  #7  
BAMAFAN2169's Avatar
BAMAFAN2169
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Franklin2
I hope you are not making sharp turns on dry pavement in 4x4. None of them will stand up to that. I think these AWD systems on these new SUV's are confusing people. You can't do it with the old time 4x4 systems except the old full-time transfer cases.
Just two wheel drive on pavement and concrete and 4X4 when I get offroad. I have an all time four wheel drive jeep, and it drives me nuts with all the issues it has. So in no way, shape, form, or fashion will I do that to my truck!! I love this old truck! I've taken her to hell and back and she just keeps asking for more, while throwing a few fits about it like the current one.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 11:59 AM
  #8  
Rovernut's Avatar
Rovernut
Laughing Gas
10 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 6
From: Georgia
Ok, so it only does it in 4WD, and you're driving on similar terrain? Both flat and level? Or are you in more uneven terrain when in 4WD?
Also, is it making the noise only at full steering lock or at any degree of turn?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 12:06 PM
  #9  
joshofalltrades's Avatar
joshofalltrades
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,560
Likes: 1
also, does it do it when hubs are locked but t-case is out (rotating but not under power), or only when fully in 4x4?
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 12:55 PM
  #10  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,966
Likes: 2,728
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by BAMAFAN2169
I changed out all of the U-joints even on the dif to hub there where two on the passenger side and one on the driver side. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that with my initial post.
I suppose since you were in that area, you would have noticed if the slip joint on the passenger side axle was sloppy. It was tight wasn't it? Those things like to wear if the boot is lost and it loses it's grease.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:39 PM
  #11  
BAMAFAN2169's Avatar
BAMAFAN2169
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Rovernut
Ok, so it only does it in 4WD, and you're driving on similar terrain? Both flat and level? Or are you in more uneven terrain when in 4WD?
Also, is it making the noise only at full steering lock or at any degree of turn?
It does it on flat terrain as well as rough terrain, and it doesn't have to go all the way left or right but atleast halfway.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:41 PM
  #12  
BAMAFAN2169's Avatar
BAMAFAN2169
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by joshofalltrades
also, does it do it when hubs are locked but t-case is out (rotating but not under power), or only when fully in 4x4?
It does it whenever the transfer case is in 4X4 whether the hubs are locked or not.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:43 PM
  #13  
BAMAFAN2169's Avatar
BAMAFAN2169
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Franklin2
I suppose since you were in that area, you would have noticed if the slip joint on the passenger side axle was sloppy. It was tight wasn't it? Those things like to wear if the boot is lost and it loses it's grease.
That's why I had to change out the u-joints to replace the slip yolk on the passenger side.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 07:09 PM
  #14  
smashclash's Avatar
smashclash
Elder User
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 901
Likes: 0
From: South Jersey
Originally Posted by BAMAFAN2169
That's why I had to change out the u-joints to replace the slip yolk on the passenger side.
did you put it all back together correctly? did it act normal for a while after you fixed it and then go bad?
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2012 | 07:11 PM
  #15  
Rovernut's Avatar
Rovernut
Laughing Gas
10 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 6
From: Georgia
I'd start by putting the front end on jack stands, transfer in neutral, hubs locked, and rotate the wheels by hand while turning them right and left and see if you can recreate the noise. If you can, have someone else rotate the wheels while you move along the axle to narrow down the noise location.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:15 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE