Excursion 10.5 Axle swap
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Excursion 10.5 Axle swap
I have a 2000 Excursion that lost the pinion bearing. I bought a new (used) axle to swap in. This is where my questions come from. The new axle came out of a 2001 F250 and there are some differences. The Excursion axle has a large shield (heat shield? ) on the passenger side. What is this for and do I need to swap it over?
My second question is about the pinion yoke. The Excursion yoke and driveshaft have round yokes that bolt to each other. The new axle just has the normal yoke that accepts the u joint and is held in with 2 straps. Can I just remove the disc part from my driveshaft and bolt it up? Or should I swap pinion yokes and reuse what I have? Has anyone done this swap before? Thank you in advance for the help. Harry
My second question is about the pinion yoke. The Excursion yoke and driveshaft have round yokes that bolt to each other. The new axle just has the normal yoke that accepts the u joint and is held in with 2 straps. Can I just remove the disc part from my driveshaft and bolt it up? Or should I swap pinion yokes and reuse what I have? Has anyone done this swap before? Thank you in advance for the help. Harry
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That shield is to block the hot air blown back across the exhaust system so you might need it (probably not) and I would avoid changing yokes if you can so you don't upset the preload on the bearings.
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pinion yoke
I had a shop rebuild the spline on the driveshaft and replace the leaking pinion seal last spring. The mechanic told me then that the pinion bearing's where fine. Then 10,000 miles later the pinion yoke has a 1/4 inch of play in every direction. So I do not want to change the yokes or disturb the factory set up unless I have to.
Can I eliminate the double disc set up on my driveshaft and just slip them together?
Can I eliminate the double disc set up on my driveshaft and just slip them together?
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I had a shop rebuild the spline on the driveshaft and replace the leaking pinion seal last spring. The mechanic told me then that the pinion bearing's where fine. Then 10,000 miles later the pinion yoke has a 1/4 inch of play in every direction. So I do not want to change the yokes or disturb the factory set up unless I have to.
Can I eliminate the double disc set up on my driveshaft and just slip them together?
Can I eliminate the double disc set up on my driveshaft and just slip them together?
Lot's of stories about fixing the seals and then nut getting loose and it's all because they don't know what they are doing. Instead of trusting someone I would just follow this procedure and do it yourself. Just pry the seal out and beat a new one in.
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I have a 2000 Excursion that lost the pinion bearing. I bought a new (used) axle to swap in. This is where my questions come from. The new axle came out of a 2001 F250 and there are some differences. The Excursion axle has a large shield (heat shield? ) on the passenger side. What is this for and do I need to swap it over?
My second question is about the pinion yoke. The Excursion yoke and driveshaft have round yokes that bolt to each other. The new axle just has the normal yoke that accepts the u joint and is held in with 2 straps. Can I just remove the disc part from my driveshaft and bolt it up? Or should I swap pinion yokes and reuse what I have? Has anyone done this swap before? Thank you in advance for the help. Harry
My second question is about the pinion yoke. The Excursion yoke and driveshaft have round yokes that bolt to each other. The new axle just has the normal yoke that accepts the u joint and is held in with 2 straps. Can I just remove the disc part from my driveshaft and bolt it up? Or should I swap pinion yokes and reuse what I have? Has anyone done this swap before? Thank you in advance for the help. Harry
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Don't change the yokes, just take the plate off the u-joint and mount the driveshaft to the new yoke.
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I just overhauled my 10.5...
For starters on the pinion nut loosening up, I think it's often due to the fact that people reuse the pinion nut. It is a one-time use item due to it's critical job. Best $8 you can invest in during the job.
If it was me I would go through a lot more trouble to make sure it is all in good shape before installing it. I just like to know it's perfect.
I'd...
Pull the axle shafts and inspect.
Pull the cover and check the backlash
Pull the carrier (4 bolts) and inspect all.
Pull the strap pinion yoke
Inspect the pinion bearings.
Replace the crush sleeve and pinion seal.
Put on the original yoke and use a new pinion nut.
You're talking about $35 worth of parts and a half a day's labor to make sure it's done right. Oh and an inch pound torque wrench.
Also, it's down right simple to replace all the seals, etc while it's out. Not so much once installed.
If I decided to have a shop do it, it would only be one heck of a reputable gear shop. I would not trust many people to diligently get the pre-load right.
For starters on the pinion nut loosening up, I think it's often due to the fact that people reuse the pinion nut. It is a one-time use item due to it's critical job. Best $8 you can invest in during the job.
If it was me I would go through a lot more trouble to make sure it is all in good shape before installing it. I just like to know it's perfect.
I'd...
Pull the axle shafts and inspect.
Pull the cover and check the backlash
Pull the carrier (4 bolts) and inspect all.
Pull the strap pinion yoke
Inspect the pinion bearings.
Replace the crush sleeve and pinion seal.
Put on the original yoke and use a new pinion nut.
You're talking about $35 worth of parts and a half a day's labor to make sure it's done right. Oh and an inch pound torque wrench.
Also, it's down right simple to replace all the seals, etc while it's out. Not so much once installed.
If I decided to have a shop do it, it would only be one heck of a reputable gear shop. I would not trust many people to diligently get the pre-load right.
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all back together
I really did not want to mess with the axle more than I had to since the axle only has 71,000 miles on it. We did remove the axle shafts and hubs. I needed to replace 2 damaged studs and I installed my parking brakes on the new axle as mine were in better shape. We also removed the diff cover cleaned everything and reinstalled the cover.
We added 75w140 and cleaned and painted the axle while it was out. My last cover had actually rusted thru and leaked so I did not want a repeat of that.
Thank you everyone for your responses!
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I just overhauled my 10.5...
For starters on the pinion nut loosening up, I think it's often due to the fact that people reuse the pinion nut. It is a one-time use item due to it's critical job. Best $8 you can invest in during the job.
If it was me I would go through a lot more trouble to make sure it is all in good shape before installing it. I just like to know it's perfect.
I'd...
Pull the axle shafts and inspect.
Pull the cover and check the backlash
Pull the carrier (4 bolts) and inspect all.
Pull the strap pinion yoke
Inspect the pinion bearings.
Replace the crush sleeve and pinion seal.
Put on the original yoke and use a new pinion nut.
You're talking about $35 worth of parts and a half a day's labor to make sure it's done right. Oh and an inch pound torque wrench.
Also, it's down right simple to replace all the seals, etc while it's out. Not so much once installed.
If I decided to have a shop do it, it would only be one heck of a reputable gear shop. I would not trust many people to diligently get the pre-load right.
For starters on the pinion nut loosening up, I think it's often due to the fact that people reuse the pinion nut. It is a one-time use item due to it's critical job. Best $8 you can invest in during the job.
If it was me I would go through a lot more trouble to make sure it is all in good shape before installing it. I just like to know it's perfect.
I'd...
Pull the axle shafts and inspect.
Pull the cover and check the backlash
Pull the carrier (4 bolts) and inspect all.
Pull the strap pinion yoke
Inspect the pinion bearings.
Replace the crush sleeve and pinion seal.
Put on the original yoke and use a new pinion nut.
You're talking about $35 worth of parts and a half a day's labor to make sure it's done right. Oh and an inch pound torque wrench.
Also, it's down right simple to replace all the seals, etc while it's out. Not so much once installed.
If I decided to have a shop do it, it would only be one heck of a reputable gear shop. I would not trust many people to diligently get the pre-load right.
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