bagged 4wd
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bagged 4wd
I was wondering if anybody on here has done a full air ride suspension front and rear on a ttb f150/250. I know its different than the way most people would go but I'll explain myself. I'm in a wheelchair and its going to cost me a fair amount of money to make it easy to get into, so I figured I would explore all options, and from a quick search, it seems like bagging the truck and lowering it when I want to get in/out may be a cheaper option than the alternatives.I currently have the truck (95 f150 flareside) lifted about 3" but I'm willing to go back to stock if it would make this option possible.
What do you guys think?
-John
What do you guys think?
-John
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Here's a link that looks promising
For Pickup Truck Lovers, the Out-Rider is Better Than a Handicap Van
As far as lowering a 4x4, it's not promising. I was debating it for years, and it would be too much to reinforce the frame at the front, also the camber and front driveshaft would be all outta wack. Essentially you would be performing a c notch in the front as the same as you would for the rear.
For Pickup Truck Lovers, the Out-Rider is Better Than a Handicap Van
As far as lowering a 4x4, it's not promising. I was debating it for years, and it would be too much to reinforce the frame at the front, also the camber and front driveshaft would be all outta wack. Essentially you would be performing a c notch in the front as the same as you would for the rear.
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And as far lowering it, it wouldn't have to go to dragging rockers or anything extreme like that, just a little lower than saya stock 2wd, and only when its parked. If it would be possible, id like to have drive height be where it is now (2-3" above stock 4wd)
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This is an FTE sponsor, they should be able to tell you if it's possible... It sounds like a good idea to me...
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I use to work at a grocery store and a man who was a regular there, has no legs. He drove a big late model extended cab Chevy 4wd. He was very independent, he took a buggy over a powered scooter and filled his buggy to the top. He wold wheel over to his truck, grab various locations on it and yank himself into. The driver seat. Then he'd fold his wheel chair and stuff it in the back. I never saw hand controls in his truck. Guy was real cool.
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I use to work at a grocery store and a man who was a regular there, has no legs. He drove a big late model extended cab Chevy 4wd. He was very independent, he took a buggy over a powered scooter and filled his buggy to the top. He wold wheel over to his truck, grab various locations on it and yank himself into. The driver seat. Then he'd fold his wheel chair and stuff it in the back. I never saw hand controls in his truck. Guy was real cool.
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For reference, when sitting next to my truck in the wheelchair, the seat is at about shoulder level for me, and while that may not seem extreme, its a long way when your looking up at it...
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Where do you live (city/state)
I don't see why you can't lower a 4x4 truck on bags.
Trailer trucks have an auto ride height valve that will consistany put the truck back to proper height so your front alignment isnt off. You can add a dump valve to bypass the height valve and lower the truck, once you're in, flip the switch back and the ride valve will set you back where it belongs.
My truck is a short 4x4 and can still drop it about 3" before it hits the bumpstops in the front. Even then i think I could remove them and drop it til the front diff is nearly hitting the exhaust or crossmember.
I think it's a great idea. Call air ride or wherever and see if they have a set of bags that are capable of 8-10" of travel and 5-7" diam (or whatever diameter the coils are) That will be fully compressed to normal ride up to max flex.
I think that should be plenty. Does your truck have dual shocks. Airbags are kinda bouncy from my experiance, and I think dual shocks would help.
I don't see why you can't lower a 4x4 truck on bags.
Trailer trucks have an auto ride height valve that will consistany put the truck back to proper height so your front alignment isnt off. You can add a dump valve to bypass the height valve and lower the truck, once you're in, flip the switch back and the ride valve will set you back where it belongs.
My truck is a short 4x4 and can still drop it about 3" before it hits the bumpstops in the front. Even then i think I could remove them and drop it til the front diff is nearly hitting the exhaust or crossmember.
I think it's a great idea. Call air ride or wherever and see if they have a set of bags that are capable of 8-10" of travel and 5-7" diam (or whatever diameter the coils are) That will be fully compressed to normal ride up to max flex.
I think that should be plenty. Does your truck have dual shocks. Airbags are kinda bouncy from my experiance, and I think dual shocks would help.
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I'm in northeast iowa, and I've been looking around for shops that I think would be able to do the fab work. I guess I know its possible, anything is possible for the right price, something I'm more curious about is if I could do a little tweaking to a 2wd kit by getting longer bags. I'll have to wait til I get to a computer to research it a bit more. I can't currently drive the truck so I'm in no hurry anyways lol
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Hmmmm. A thought might be a good winter project, but a couple of years ago I was researching the crown Vic front suspension, , one piece unit and fits our frame rails. But needs to be boxed on top of the frame. I'll see if I can find the link.
Edit*- found the link
http://www.modularfords.com/f30/4-6-5-4-92-96-a-133887/
Edit*- found the link
http://www.modularfords.com/f30/4-6-5-4-92-96-a-133887/
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Hmmmm. A thought might be a good winter project, but a couple of years ago I was researching the crown Vic front suspension, , one piece unit and fits our frame rails. But needs to be boxed on top of the frame. I'll see if I can find the link.
Edit*- found the link
4.6 or 5.4 in a 92-96 F-150 Flareside
Edit*- found the link
4.6 or 5.4 in a 92-96 F-150 Flareside
I'm thinking this might not work so well on a 4X4....... Prove me wrong....
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If he was to make his truck 2wd I'd promote the cv front end.
There are lots of people in the fte forum with older trucks that have used the cv front to lower and improve handling and make their trucks awesome.
But doubtful it will work for a 4wd.
But if you wanted a sweet lowered truck, that's the route to go.
There are lots of people in the fte forum with older trucks that have used the cv front to lower and improve handling and make their trucks awesome.
But doubtful it will work for a 4wd.
But if you wanted a sweet lowered truck, that's the route to go.
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Id say its very doable and shouldnt be that difficult. If im understanding you correctly then you want it at stock height while driving and ONLY lowered for getting in and out. All you would need to do is fabricate the brackets that hold the bags in place of the coils and get the correct size and load bag. Let all the air out when getting out and when you get back in pump it up to the p.s.i. that will yeild a stock height.
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Id say its very doable and shouldnt be that difficult. If im understanding you correctly then you want it at stock height while driving and ONLY lowered for getting in and out. All you would need to do is fabricate the brackets that hold the bags in place of the coils and get the correct size and load bag. Let all the air out when getting out and when you get back in pump it up to the p.s.i. that will yeild a stock height.