I have an '82 f150, 4 speed (3 speed w/granny-T18/T19?) and need someone to confirm the areas marked on the attached pics are or are not where the clutch pilot bushing should be.

When releasing the clutch, it will return about 2/3 of the way up, and then I must "toe up" the clutch pedal for it to "pop" up the rest of the way.

If the areas marked are not the pilot bushing, could someone tell me the type of bushing I need here? Metal or plastic?

Thanks,
Sid

 

That is not the clutch pilot bushing, which is really a bearing, not a bushing. Read a bit of my post from yesterday in Dad's ZF5 Swap and look at the diagram. Read the bit about the various bushings that are shown in the diagram in my post, where you can/can't get them, etc.

Basically, what you are showing in your pictures is called the "equalizer shaft" by Ford, and "z-bar" by many of us. There's a round ball-shaped pivot on the frame and a two-piece plastic bushing that goes over it. On the tranny end there's a stud with a donut-shaped plastic bushing that goes over it.

The pilot bearing is in the end of the crankshaft and holds the front end of the transmission's input shaft. It won't have anything to do with having to bring the pedal up with your toe, but the bushings in the z-bar may well. Or the bushings in the clutch pedal itself. Or the bushings in the idler rod that goes from under the dash, through the floorboard, and into one end of the z-bar. Or the bushing that goes in the other end of the z-bar and connects the rod that goes back to the release arm. Any of these bushings can be the problem or part of the problem.

Last, do you have a large spring from the frame ahead of the z-bar back to the release arm? You should.

 

Ok, I need to order the bushings for both sides of the "z bar". Does anyone offer a bushing set or do I need to order each piece separately?

I need to know exactly what these bushings are called (equalizer bushings?) in order to find replacements. Part numbers would be excellent, but part terminology is crucial at this point..lol.

Thanks

 

I'm sorry, but you are going to need to read. I posted the answers to most of those questions 24 hours ago in the thread I gave you the link to. Come back after you've read and digested yesterday's post, not the whole thread, and ask for the answers I didn't give you in there. I know which ones they are, but I'll let you figure it out.

 

Hey man, I appreciate your help, but I don't have an hour to read about your dad's transmission rebuild, and then decipher and "digest" it. I needed to find out what these parts are called, so I can order the f**king things and get my truck back on the road asap. I've gone to 4 parts stores, not including the stealership to find these bushings or the set, in which None of them could find, and this is AFTER I showed them the bushing location in the books. The only thing 2 places could offer were the pilot bushings, which I don't need. I appreciate that info, but at this point I am in NO freakin' mood for some a$$ head to give me ******!!!!!!!!!

I just found the kit online. Thanks Dick.

 

I hope the kit is from LMC.

 

why not just put a better spring on it and be done with it a whole $2 fix

 

No, it's not. In fact LMC told me a few days ago they didn't offer them any longer. Thanks for the concern.

Look Gary, as stated, I really do appreciate your first post and the info you provided. When I need to do research on any of the forums I'm a member of, I always run a search for the problem and read other member's posts and save posting a new thread as a last resort. Fact is, I've already spent more time on this that I don't really have to spend, and I don't wanna spend money I don't have ordering wrong parts.

It's my understanding most members here are working class men/women with jobs and a family. I'm no exception. The idea today was to finally break down and post a question to get a simple answer, and then spend time with my son this evening.

Again, I apologize for the backlash, man. I'm not a bad guy. Your sarcasm just caught me off guard at the wrong time.

I'll probably use the kit and a new spring. Thanks

 

Sid138

Install new bushes & parts as necessary, but you will also need to adjust the pushrod that operates onto the clutch fork.

Lengthening this slightly will get the pedal to the point where it will 'pop' up to the full return position - it takes very little final adjustment to get from the 'hanging down' state, to the 'popping up' state.

The freeplay measurement should be 1 1/2" at the pedal.

Personally, I set it so the pedal will only just pop up, even if this gives slightly more than 1 1/2" of freeplay - this means the clutch diaphram is flexing the least with each disengagment, & also gives extra clearance to the release bearing.

If you still have trouble, you could check -

1. That the return spring on the pedal bracket, up under the dash, is intact - it's a short, compression spring that works overcenter on the clutch pedal cross-shaft;

2. That the long spring Gary mentioned (hooked to the crossmember), is in place.

 

Apology accepted.

Having said that, I think if you were to look at the post I suggested you read, as I did not ask you to read the thread, you will see that the post is quite long. In fact, it is detailed enough that it would have taken me far longer to type again than was worth. Hence the reason I suggested you read it and sent you a link directly to it. As you can imagine, when you didn't take the time to do so but wanted me to spend my time typing all that detail as well as including the diagram again, I decided that it wasn't worth me spending my time to do all that when all you had to do was follow a link - that I'd already sent you.

No, I'm no longer working as I am retired. But, my time is as valuable to me as yours is to you. Yesterday I took part of my day to respond to you after having driven 5 hours to spend 2 hours with my father who is in the last stages of Alzheimers. When I got home what I wanted to do was spend time with my wife, but instead I read your post where you asked about something I had just written extensively about the day before. So, I took the time to give you a link directly to the specific post I had written, not the overall thread.

That post, by the way, said that I do not believe a comprehensive kit of all the pieces that should be replaced in these mechanical linkages is available. However, if you have found someone that does provide such a kit it would be very helpful if you would post a link to as well as a review of it. But, you might want to wait until you get the kit as what they say they provide may well be different from what is needed. I hope for your sake as well as ours that you've found a good, comprehensive kit as one is certainly needed. Please take the time to contribute to FTE by reviewing that kit when you get it.

 

Gary is one of this forum's most helpful people, he will go out of his way to look up information in the parts catalog, post snippets of the same, create AutoCAD drawings to help explain, take pictures of his own trucks, all to help others here.

You, Sid, seem to want to be spoon-fed, why should I or anybody else here do that for you? How much help do you provide to others here?

It's odd that you have the time to take pictures, add text, upload to a hosting site, then compose posts, but yet don't have the time to read or even skim a page that has the factory drawings and part names and all your answers! Much less investigate what a clutch pilot bushing is, where it is located and what it does, before composing said post asking questions about it.

One can lead a horse to water, but one cannot make him drink.