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Also, please discuss the "other" fees such as "clerical", "messenger" (for tags or registration that are in addition to the regular Motor Veh. Agency fees); and "documentation".
I find that too many folks negotiate a price (with the stipulation that tax, tags and "some" fees are additional) with sales then discover that clerical fees range up to $250.00.
And in some states, the "messenger" fee can be eliminated by picking up new plates or reg. the vehicle yourself.
Also, please discuss the "other" fees such as "clerical", "messenger" (for tags or registration that are in addition to the regular Motor Veh. Agency fees); and "documentation".
I find that too many folks negotiate a price (with the stipulation that tax, tags and "some" fees are additional) with sales then discover that clerical fees range up to $250.00.
And in some states, the "messenger" fee can be eliminated by picking up new plates or reg. the vehicle yourself.
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Intresting, when I bought my new truck it did not have the sticker on it. It was in the glove box. The truck had 1000 miles on it, but according the salesman a truck is considered new until it has 1500 miles on it in this state. Since then the dealership has rubbed me the wrong way. I supose there is no way to prove that it wasn't on the window, but it wasn't. As a matter of fact I have the sticker in my file.
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I have to be careful here, because these fees and charges vary greatly from one state to another. Here in New York, dealers are allowed to charge a customer a MAXIMUM of $20 (that's right- twenty dollars) for procuring a title and it's necessary paperwork. The title costs us $5, and a lien fee (if you're financing the vehicle through the dealer) is also 5 bucks. So that leaves $10 for our efforts: paperwork, going to DMV, paying off your old loan, mailing the new registration. Registration fees here are pretty reasonable, too: about $50/ year to register a SuperDuty. I understand CA's reg fees are unreal, and some states charge personal-use taxes every year (none in NY).
Now, I would imagine there are some states that allow a dealer to charge whatever the market will bear. But, no matter where you live, you always have the right ask upfront what these fees are going to be.
Now, I would imagine there are some states that allow a dealer to charge whatever the market will bear. But, no matter where you live, you always have the right ask upfront what these fees are going to be.
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Originally posted by biglevi71
Intresting, when I bought my new truck it did not have the sticker on it. It was in the glove box. The truck had 1000 miles on it, but according the salesman a truck is considered new until it has 1500 miles on it in this state.
Intresting, when I bought my new truck it did not have the sticker on it. It was in the glove box. The truck had 1000 miles on it, but according the salesman a truck is considered new until it has 1500 miles on it in this state.
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I got sis's Taurus's "clerical, messenger, and doc " fee down from $250.00 to about $70.00...this was the min. for the required state license and reg fee. The paperwork the dealer showed us had no $ amount in the "fee" section; I saw it coming as soon as the saleslady started writing the VIN on it.
Another dealer tried same on son's Ford contour a few yrs ago; again, we knew it was coming so we incl. the fees in the negotiation process (as well as the no - no add-on's...ESP, undercoating..etc)
Thanks again!
be well!
I got sis's Taurus's "clerical, messenger, and doc " fee down from $250.00 to about $70.00...this was the min. for the required state license and reg fee. The paperwork the dealer showed us had no $ amount in the "fee" section; I saw it coming as soon as the saleslady started writing the VIN on it.
Another dealer tried same on son's Ford contour a few yrs ago; again, we knew it was coming so we incl. the fees in the negotiation process (as well as the no - no add-on's...ESP, undercoating..etc)
Thanks again!
be well!
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Here in Kansas I pay the licensing and registration fees myself when I get the tags for the vehicle or transfer them from my old vehicle. I don't pay ANY fees but I have seen a few listed on the door stickers for suckers. I negotiate my price with the sales manager and when the finance people start talking fees and those other add ons I just refuse to pay any additional bogus "costs".
Dealer prep
Cleanup
Dealer MARKUP! Yes some people fall for this one...
And others that have been mentioned above...
We do have annual property taxes tho
Dealer prep
Cleanup
Dealer MARKUP! Yes some people fall for this one...
And others that have been mentioned above...
We do have annual property taxes tho
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yo T,
Is the great State of Kansas still car/truck inspection free?
Here in NJ, we are suffering as badly as the Colonists did in the 1700's under Brit taxes! We have vehicle license transfer fees/annual registration fees ... sales (6% on a lot of stuff incl. vehicles) and income taxes (2% and up!).
Is the great State of Kansas still car/truck inspection free?
Here in NJ, we are suffering as badly as the Colonists did in the 1700's under Brit taxes! We have vehicle license transfer fees/annual registration fees ... sales (6% on a lot of stuff incl. vehicles) and income taxes (2% and up!).
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Originally posted by 1956MarkII
Technically, the sticker is supposed to be on the vehicle when you PURCHASE it, not necessarily when you take delivery. Once you've bought it, the dealer may (and should) remove it when cleaning the vehicle for pick-up.
Technically, the sticker is supposed to be on the vehicle when you PURCHASE it, not necessarily when you take delivery. Once you've bought it, the dealer may (and should) remove it when cleaning the vehicle for pick-up.
This does make the vehicle difficult to sell at the end of the model year if it has two or three stickers on it.
Just my .02 and worth all of it.
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Kansas has a title inspection when a vehicle is purchased in another state and registered in Kansas. We have no smog checks here although every 5 or so years they talk about them.
We do have annual vehicle license fees and transfer fees. We also have annual personal property taxes on vehicles, 7% sales taxes on almost everything (food included) except prescriptions and a few other things, and income taxes.
We do have annual vehicle license fees and transfer fees. We also have annual personal property taxes on vehicles, 7% sales taxes on almost everything (food included) except prescriptions and a few other things, and income taxes.
