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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Ok guys this may sound dumb but it should be a easy couple answers. I'm going through all fluids,

76 F100. 360 w/ 4speed and dana 21 transfer case

Question #1.
Are there drain plugs on the front and rear differentials? I see the fill plugs but not drain plugs.

Question #2
For the transmission and transfer case is 140W really needed or is 90W ok? 90W seems to be what I'm seeing around here

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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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1) no drain plugs on the diffs, only fill plugs.

2) 90w is fine for the tranny and t-case.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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Thanks for the info. Thought maybe I was blind on the diffs. So for those, gaskets and pull the cover off to inspect and drain?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by robs_seven
pull the cover off to inspect and drain?
If you want to visually inspect the gears yes, otherwise i just use a little hand held suction pump to drain the diffs.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Sounds Good to me suction it is. Thanks. Hoping to finish up this weekend and go on its maiden voyage around the block next week.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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No problem...good luck on the maiden voyage.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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I like Mobil One 75-140 or 75-90weight is even better. This oil makes the 4 speed shift better especially when cold.
FYI do not over fill the trans oil. This causes the main shaft to stop turning to soon between shifts and is hard on syncronizers. I fill mine to just below the fill hole. If you fill it full, let it drain back out all it can before you put the fill plug in.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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The owners manual for a '76 actually calls for sae 50w in the manual trans and the t-case but I couldnt find any on the day I was servicing mine so I used the 75-90w. One of these days I'll locate or order some straight 50w and use that
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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I have a crappy repair manual that said the 140w, can't trust those things for anything
 
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bamaf150
The owners manual for a '76 actually calls for sae 50w in the manual trans and the t-case.
Bama's correct, the factory service manuals do call for 50w motor oil but i (and everyone i know) have always used 90w gear oil, both are the very same viscosity.

Motor oil and gear oil have different characteristics, i wouldn't put motor oil in my differentials so why put it in my transmission and transfer case which both contain gears.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
Bama's correct, the factory service manuals do call for 50w motor oil but i (and everyone i know) have always used 90w gear oil, both are the very same viscosity.

Motor oil and gear oil have different characteristics, i wouldn't put motor oil in my differentials so why put it in my transmission and transfer case which both contain gears.
Cuz Big brother Ford says too?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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Cuz Big brother Ford says too?
I know, i know, but i gotta part company with big brother on this one.

Gear oils have a much higher level of extreme pressure additives than motor oils do, also there are a lot of additives in motor oil that will serve no purpose in a gear application.

Personally, i'll continue to use gear oil in my tranny and t-case, there are enough differences in the engine vs. tranny/t-case environment that I feel better going that route.

Lastly, as i noted earlier, 50w motor oil and 90w gear oil both share the same viscosity rating so the flow characteristics are the same between the two.
 
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
I know, i know, but i gotta part company with big brother on this one.

Gear oils have a much higher level of extreme pressure additives than motor oils do, also there are a lot of additives in motor oil that will serve no purpose in a gear application.

Personally, i'll continue to use gear oil in my tranny and t-case, there are enough differences in the engine vs. tranny/t-case environment that I feel better going that route.

Lastly, as i noted earlier, 50w motor oil and 90w gear oil share the same viscosity rating so the flow characteristics are the same between the two.
Ok you convinced me lol. I'll probably continue as well due to your argument plus the fact that str8 50w is getting scarce around here.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Ok you convinced me lol. I'll probably continue as well due to your argument plus the fact that str8 50w is getting scarce around here.
I'm not saying it's the gospel, just my logical way of thinking, which may or may not be flawed.
 
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