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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026"/> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1"/> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> Fellas, I'm brand new here and I need some help please. I purchased a 1988 Ford F150 Extra Cab 4X4 and it is not running very good. It ran great driving it home (about 40 miles) except it overheating. The truck has been sitting for about five years. I bought this truck for a young Marine at Camp Lejeune, NC and am starting to worry about how it runs. In the days after I got it home I flushed the radiator, changed the thermostat and added new coolant. That didn't help and it still overheats. I bought a new radiator and it should be here soon.

I noticed the truck ran great while cold but once it warmed up it started bucking and cutting out. I got on this site and looked up some very old threads and then did a few things. I dumped about a ½ pint of Marvel's Mystery Oil in the tank along with 10 gallons of gas. I changed the fuel pressure regulator (that helped it start right up without having to crank forever) I've disconnected the battery for a few hours, checked the plugs, checked the air cleaner element and sprayed carburetor cleaner on some of the sticky external throttle body parts. It did not make one bit of difference at all.

Now, I start it up, and it starts right up, and it idles for a moment and then dies and then won’t start up again for a few minutes. I have read many posts with similar issues but there really never seems to be a definitive answer or cure to the problem.

As my username implies, I am Not A Ford Guy and I'm really kind of stuck with what the problem could be. The Marine I sold it to will be out here next month with my son, also a Marine, to pick it up and tow it back to North Carolina. I want it perfect for him. Please help. TIA

BTW, the front gas tank is the only one that works. Is there a fix for that as well?
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:54 PM
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1. Pull the codes
2. full tune up including fuel filter

For the fuel tank; check power out from the switch, check the relay, check the pump. It's probably a bad pump but it could be loose wires. Or it could be 5 year old gas in the tanks causing all your issues.
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:10 PM
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Burnout, thank you for the very quick reply.

There are no codes showing. I will do the full tune up as your suggested. Are there more than one fuel filters? Where is it ( are they) located? Where is the High idle-tps sensor located?

The gas tank had some gas in it but not much. The 10 gallons I put in it was premium. (I thought it might help) The back tank (not working) smelled really bad like lacquer. The front, working, tank smelled fine and like fresh gas when I picked it up.
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:15 PM
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There will be a (one) fuel filter on the driver's side frame rail. it's either a in-line style or a canister style but they're in roughly the same spot ahead of the front tank.

You should at least be getting a code telling you there's no problems detected. If you didn't get at least that you either didn't do the test right, didn't get a good ground, or the computer is bad (which could cause your problem)
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:18 PM
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Can I do the test with a common fault code tester like this one?

 
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As long as that one works with Ford OBD-1. If you don't already have one this is the one I use and I like it. seems to be popular with a lot of others here too.
Amazon.com: Equus 3145 Ford Digital Code Reader: Automotive

I also was helping someone with a similar issue and found a video online of how to do it without a scanner. I'll see if I can grab it for you.
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:25 PM
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Here ya go. How to check without a code reader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p04NPv_gXsI
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:37 PM
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Wow, I just have the one like I pictured. I'm kind of lost now. Ha Ha Ha!!! I don't think mine will plug into the test plug under the hood but I will go check it out.
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:47 PM
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My tester will not fit. I just fired it up and revved it a few times and it sounded great. I was able to do that for maybe 15 seconds and then it slowly started sputtering and died. I'm suspecting the fuel filter because it has gotten considerably worse than it was even last week. I will replace the frame mounted fuel filter and report back.

Burnout, thank you again for your helpful replies.
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:57 PM
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Okay I found the fuel filter in the frame next to the transfer case. It has four lines from the tanks and two going towards the engine. There is another filter canister mounted in the frame below the exhaust. I think it is one in and one out. The front one looks new but I will change both.
 
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Okay, I'm confused again. It looks as though the four in two out is the duel tank valve. There is another piece between the tank valve and the fuel filter that has and electrical plug with wires and fuel lines coming in and out. I thought that was the tank valve between the two.
 
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Oh man I'm learning today!

I think I got it now. From the tank, four in two out = tank valve. Then, one in and one out with wiring = high pressure fuel pump. Then, One in one out = fuel filter.
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:32 PM
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Correct, the one in one out is the fuel filter.

Don't worry about it! It's a learning process.

Replacing the fuel filter should help, if it's been sitting for that long.
 
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:03 PM
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Thank you. I was a heavy diesel mechanic on Cummins engines for nearly 20 years but I've also been away from it for 20 years only doing military vehicle restorations since I left Cummins. Ask me about a Cummins N14, B series, K series, a ****** MB or a Mighty Mite and I'm on it!
 
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Well, I got the radiator in and everything fit perfect. I also changed the in frame fuel filter. The old one weighs in at about five pounds! It took a little cranking to get it to fire up and it did, revved it once, it sputtered and died! The fuel gauge reads a 1/4 tank but I think the stupid thing is out of gas!!! I'll put five gallons in it tomorrow and start this process over
 


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