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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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Transmission?

I just bought a 1955 *****'s M170 Ambulance Jeep and was towing it back to TN fro GA. Total weight was probably around 6k.

About halfway home the Overdrive OFF light starts blinking. I have no idea what this means, no book, so I drive on.

Stop for gas...transmission oil all on the trailer. Check and it was approx 3 qts low. I refilled and drove like a schoolgirl all the way home, listening for any little sound of what type of damage I might have done.

I was under the impression this diesel would pull anything like this no problem...am I mistaken?

Week later...Can barely get it to go 35...garage guy said it was throwing all kinds of codes....says Injector #2 was bad and replaced it. Is that a coincidence????

Also, I now here a distinct whine, especially when we first get going (other than that the beast is running fine). Does this mean anything?

Lastly, as I was going downhill Sunday, I went to shift into 2nd to let the engine slow me rather than ride the brakes and I could not move the shifter past D. Any thoughts?

Thank you all for your consideration on these issues.
Steve
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ssolid
I was under the impression this diesel would pull anything like this no problem...am I mistaken?
Really? C'mon Steve, a 5.4L gas engine would pull that load! That weight wouldn't do anything to a V10 or a diesel.

Week later...Can barely get it to go 35...garage guy said it was throwing all kinds of codes....says Injector #2 was bad and replaced it. Is that a coincidence????
Steve....buddy....injectors are in the engine, not the transmission. A bad injector is not gonna cause your trans to spew fluid.

Does this mean anything?
Codes. We need the codes that were pulled, my friend, so we can offer help.

What made the mechanic think the #2 injector needed replacing?

Also, which diesel engine do you have? You never stated. Lemme know so I can get this thread to a forum better tailored to answer the questions to your problems buddy.

Lastly, as I was going downhill Sunday, I went to shift into 2nd to let the engine slow me rather than ride the brakes and I could not move the shifter past D. Any thoughts?
Why are you manually shifting your trans? Do you do this a lot?

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 03:28 AM
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2001 7.3 L , 200k miles
I realize the injectors are not part of the transmission, however I was wondering if the problem I had was due to what happened while I was pulling since the timing of it was so close.

I do not have the codes (I can ask tomorrow if they wrote them down)he said there were several and since he changed out the injector it has been driving fine.

Still wondering why I can go into no lower gear than putting it in drive. I was attempting to downshift as I was on a Long dissent and didn't want to ride my brakes. So no I don't shift down often but I do have times where I'm going to be heading down hill for long period of time.

The check engine light never came on just the blinking light on the end of the gear shifter.

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 06:02 AM
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The light on the shifter means you have trans codes - need to get your Ex scanned to see what is really going on.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ssolid
Week later...Can barely get it to go 35...garage guy said it was throwing all kinds of codes....says Injector #2 was bad and replaced it. Is that a coincidence????
Could be, hard to say.

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Also, I now here a distinct whine, especially when we first get going (other than that the beast is running fine). Does this mean anything?
It probably means a bearing or bushing was damaged by running low on fluid, or from whatever made the OD OFF light flash.

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Lastly, as I was going downhill Sunday, I went to shift into 2nd to let the engine slow me rather than ride the brakes and I could not move the shifter past D. Any thoughts?
I've seen this happen before. Each time it was a rock that got tossed up and blocked the trans shift cable from moving. You can look for that on the driver's side of the trans where the cable attaches to the transmission.

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Why are you manually shifting your trans? Do you do this a lot?
When towing with a transmission that doesn't have TOW/HAUL I frequently manually downshift on downgrades. Is there a reason not to?

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The light on the shifter means you have trans codes - need to get your Ex scanned to see what is really going on.
Exactly!
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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I checked underneath and nothing is obstructing the cable from moving. I also looked under the steering column at the 2 screws that sometimes come loose and cause shifter issues. Both were in place and tight.

Shop guy didn't write codes down. Would they still show if I took it up to autozone?

So what needs to be done to see if the "whine" is a bushing or a bearing?

Any other suggestions about the shifter not going beyond "D"?

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Autozone would not be able to read the trans codes even if they were still in the computer.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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Still not shifting past D.

Stalled 2x when putting it into reverse. (after running for a an hour or so)

Seems to be taking longer to shift out of 2nd.

Is it wise to drop the pan and take a look?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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Was the diode failure also in certan 01 model excursions? I know at some point trucks with certan 01 build dates will fail without warning. My guess is once the trans got hot that was it. Heat is naturally the enemy especially on these trucks. High heat and Low fluid is never good. Do you have a temp guage? Dropping the pan will probably sicken you with what's in it. The codes are still stored provided they weren't deleted. Any dealer or someone with a high quality scan tool
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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I will drive it in tomorrow and have a buddy that works in the factory here with me check the codes with his scanner.

The reverse issue has not reared its ugly head in a week or so...but I feel that this is a ticking time bomb and the Ex is my wife and kids vehicle. (homeschooling mom)

I am not sure of the build date...will have to take a look at the ex tomorrow morning.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Was the diode failure also in certan 01 model excursions?
All 2001 model 4R100s behind 7.3L diesels built before March, 2001, had a mechanical diode. It doesn't matter if it is an F-Series, E-Series, or Excursion.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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Why are you manually shifting your trans? Do you do this a lot?

Stewart
Anything wrong with that? All it does it re-direct the oil in the valve body manually. I do it sometimes to save the brakes but I never could see any harm in it.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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Anything wrong with that?
For the 4R100? I have no clue. I plan on asking Mark that question.

I have always been gun-shy about doing that ever since I screwed up the trans in my dad's truck by manually shifting his auto trans truck, back when I was a wee lad, first driving.

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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 10:02 PM
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I was under the impression that it was better to let the engine brake you...rather than ride the brakes all the way down a grade. That is why I initially tried to shift it from "D" to "2".

I did check and there is no obstruction as far as the cable is concerned. I also checked for the loose screws under the steering column and those are in place and tight. I was reading on another thread about a possible fray in a wire in the steering column????

I am having some electrical issues. As I am driving at night the lights on the door under the switches on both the passenger and drives side randomly flicker on and off. Very distracting and annoying and not sure why this is happening.

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Steve
 
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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I don't know of any reason to not manually shift the transmission.
 
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