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Old 11-14-2016, 02:26 PM
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They would if it was done at the Federal level... They would have no choice. They didn't like national CDLs either, but that was forced on them.
 
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As much as I agree with you and would like this as well, it's a slippery slope taking away states rights. I'm not sure I like the idea of the Feds forcing states to do something. While I'd love it on this issue, it could come back to bite me when it's an issue I'm very much against...
 
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Old 11-14-2016, 02:30 PM
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That's the bad part about the double edged sword Rodney...

It sorta doesn't affect me personally as I have a national carry permit. One that is very tough to get as you have to do at least 10 years of law enforcement and honorably retire to get it.
 
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Old 11-14-2016, 03:38 PM
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I like a National Carry permit...........
I would be willing to meet tougher Classroom and Range time requirements. I have already gone way beyond any state's requirements.

I would also like to see an "advanced" carry permit that would allow CC in the "no Gun zones"

Got some more work done outside on the Deck Stairs......Handrails.....

Lynn has been sick all weekend.......went to school today. Doing worse. Doc appointment right after school. I bet I will be subbing tomorrow.............poor kids.......
 
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I'm in the same position as Dakster...HR 218 program.

Not withstanding that, I really don't want to get too far into the weeds here as it gets real political. But, Oregon is a prime example of why a Uniform Federal Level Law on Concealed Carry Permits is needed.
If you have a concealed carry permit from any state in the union, don't expect it to be honored here. Just to be on the safe side, Place it in full view or in the trunk of your car prior to crossing the State line, and stay out of the Portland Metro area with it.
 
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http://www.leoaffairs.com/featured/b...eputy-florida/

I tried to send this by phone, for some reason I can't get the link to act properly. Maybe you can read the article about a civilian shooting a guy that attacked a Florida LEO.
 
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Old 11-14-2016, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailor_Roy
I like a National Carry permit...........
I would be willing to meet tougher Classroom and Range time requirements. I have already gone way beyond any state's requirements.

I would also like to see an "advanced" carry permit that would allow CC in the "no Gun zones"

See Roy, I'm more of a "Shall Not Be Infringed" kind of guy. The second amendment is a right and not a privilege. Any required courses or a even permit at all, is a violation of that right. Constitutional carry that has been enacted in states like Maine and VT is the truest interpretation we have so far.
 
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Old 11-14-2016, 05:59 PM
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Rodney - Alaska is also a true 2nd amendment state - nothing is needed... Open carry, concealed carry... Some places you can't do either - walk around downtown anchorage open carrying and you will most likely get stopped, potentially at gun point. We only have a CCW permit in AK for reciprocity reasons. Of course in AK, your right to carry can be taken away (Domestic Violence as an example). The one thing on the books is that if you are carrying and are approached by a law enforcement officer, like on a traffic stop, you must immediately tell the officer that you are armed.

Seabiscuit - Areas like that are annoying and why there was even a need for HR-218. There was a time that current, active, police officers even living in New Jersey, but working in another state couldn't take their firearms home with them without being in violation of NJ law. And NJ police would arrest an active duty officer for being armed. I used to drive around that state when I drove up to Connecticut from Florida before HR-218. And in Connecticut I wasn't allowed to conceal carry either - but - they didn't actively look to enforce it. One of the reasons a lot of Officers would get CCW permits.. I have a Florida one as it is free for life - and considering getting an AK one just to have it. There some annoyances with HR-218 as well - I'm sure Seabiscuit knows all about those too..
 
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Another constitutional carry state. One of the good ones Dak.

Right now I have MA, NH, ME, and FL. Gets me most possible states and is an expensive pain in the ****.
 
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Florida was free for me as long as I applied within a year of retiring... which was the other reason I got it. Plus, even with HR-218 I still have to wait in Florida for the "cooling off" period to get a gun, whereas with a CCW I can walk out of a gun store that day with a new gun...
 
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Originally Posted by Sailor_Roy
I like a National Carry permit...........
I would be willing to meet tougher Classroom and Range time requirements. I have already gone way beyond any state's requirements.

I would also like to see an "advanced" carry permit that would allow CC in the "no Gun zones"

Got some more work done outside on the Deck Stairs......Handrails.....

Lynn has been sick all weekend.......went to school today. Doing worse. Doc appointment right after school. I bet I will be subbing tomorrow.............poor kids.......
Firstly, the "target rich" zones need to be abolished - and Trump has said he's for that, and secondly, what "advancements" are you thinking about? The current background check should be completely adequate, and there has be no problem with CWP holders shooting up the place indiscriminately...
 
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What will the weather be like t'day
 
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Good morning guys
Gerry, we will find out soon enough !
Have fun today
 
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Good morning guys!

The broken boy did pretty good at school yesterday. I was happy. He got some help getting his back pack on and off at each class. He can go to the bathroom on his own as long as he wears shorts with an elastic waist band. He got a cute girl to get him his lunch. He's doing ok.

My other son has been helping out his brother big time. I'm really proud of him.

Have a great day guys!
 
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