I understand from a previous thread I started that there are several versions if these mirrors that were utilized on 67-79 Fords. I want to find a set for my '67 but am not sure what all the different styles look like. I have found what I think is a 67 farm truck that is likely a heavier duty truck than my F250 and its mirrors are in place. The frames are painted white as are the mirror backs but I haven't been close enough to the truck to see if the glass is intact or not as the vehicle sits off the road a bit in a line of other used up farm trucks (mostly Ford). Would the same mirrors have been used on the really heavy duty trucks (utilizing the same cab as a regular bump)? Can anyone provide pictures of the few styles and help me identify the ones I am looking for?

Here is a picture of the truck when it was new although I am afraid it isn't much help. I can see the mirrors are three point but can't tell if they are painted or if they are chrome/stainless or not.

 

I played with the image using Photoshop and am confident they are stainless steel versions.

 

Thanks HIO Silver. I was unsure if they would have been a basic painted version as this truck is rather no frills. The front bumper is chromed but back is painted...

Do you know what the differences are across the year's spread I'm talking about? Are the frames the same for all with different mirror shapes or would there be additional differences.

 

Since all the outside mirrors were installed by the dealers and dealers would usually install whatever they had in stock:

Go to the top of the first page of the 1961/66 forum to the side mirror sticky. Look at the 3rd pic in post 22.

Is this the same mirror that is on your truck? Painted gray only and notice how the mirror head is mounted to the brackets.

Now look at the 2nd pic.

Not shown are two other types of Western aka West Coast mirrors for 1967/72 F100/350's. Were available either painted or stainless (faaar more popular).

This may be the one on your truck: One type is right/left specific, has long upper/lower goose necked arms and a 3rd Steady-Rest arm. Standard equipment for 1967/72 Camper Special's, optional on others.

These mirrors stick out well past the cab.

The other type is a Swing-Lok mirror, same right/left. Has shorter upper/lower goose necked arms. Swing-Lok: Push the mirror forward, when you pull it back, it will lock into position.

The 1973/79 versions of these mirrors (due to the mounting brackets) will not fit 1967/72's properly because the door contours are different. Only thing that is the same is the mirror head.

Genuine Ford: Has 3 embossed lines, with the center line shorter than the other two (C7TZ-17723-A).

All these mirrors are obsolete, almost impossible to find NOS, can be very difficult to find used. Some parts are available for them NOS

 

have you had any luck finding any of them at all? i also would like a set of them, stainless. found a couple of them at junk yard none in real good shaped and all were painted. i did not know they were so hard to find . i just thought you could find new ones easy but i have never looked into them much.

 

Iv'e got two sets of junior west coast mirrors-they're the two-legged version - one with glass and one set without. I taped together the broken glass to use as a template. PM me with an offer.

 

I had the big ones on my 72, even chrome. Took them off and threw them away in favor of the later "below eye level swing lock" style. Much more user friendly and not the HUGE blind spot.

 

Ford never offered chrome mirrors for these trucks, except for the standard equipment L/H passenger car type (C7AZ-17696-A).

The problem is, the 1973/79 low mount Swing-Lok mirrors do not fit the 1967/72's door contours properly, so the mirror heads are angled, not level.

 

Numberdummy,

Thanks for the reference. I would not have looked at that forum for this info. I DID get my catalog and would likely have not found that information before Christmas....

I checked out the ones on the farm truck near my home. The truck is indeed a '67 and the mirrors match that third diagram but they are in rather poor condition. I am wondering about getting a set of an Econoline van I saw yesterday. They are the two point mount and are painted but are the taller narrower version with the three ribs on the back. The upper bracket has a different hole spacing and shape but I was wondering if I could simply swap out the top bracket for ones on a bump that is also in that yard (with trashed mirrors). I would want to measure to see if they could even possibly fit.... I'd repaint them silver and be happy to have found something to use for the foreseeable future. I see they fold in against the body as well which would be nice as long as they don't fold up while I am driving down the highway.

 

Outside mirrors: Illustration Section 176.2 ~ Pages 1 thru 14 / E = Econoline / F = trucks.

Look at the various mirrors and how the heads are attached to the arms.

A wind rated a 10 on the Beaufort Scale might cause a Swing-Lok mirror to flutter a bit, but I doubt it would do anything else.

 

The ones on the econoline I saw were screwed through as in the second illustration you mentioned. Also they have what appear to be wind deflectors in place mounted to the frame in front of the mirror. I hope to have time today to go back and measure them and buy if they will fit. They will be better than the peep mirrors i have at the moment.

JIM

 

Since most mirrors were optional at additional cost, some peeps would go to junkyards, find something that would fit (not necessarily from a Ford), then bolt 'em on.

Western Auto, Sears, NAPA, J. C Whitney, indie autoparts stores all sold similar mirrors.

Since the FoMoCo dealers installed all the outside mirrors and would usually install whatever they had in stock, there's no telling what you might find on these trucks and Econolines.

I've seen the wind deflectors on 500 and larger series truck mirrors, but are aftermarket "add ons." None shown in the parts catalog mirror pics.

 

Stainless maybe? They were Ford script. Can't see very well but this is the only picture I have of the truck. I actually used a set later on this truck from an early Ranger and the set pretty level.

 

Pics for reference:
(Sold to Whistle1516)


"FoMoCo" script and three-ribbed heads like ND described:

 

Here are the mirrors and brackets I found yesterday at "the gettin' place".






Painted set was from an Econoline. FoMoCo script at the bottom of the mirror clearly ID's them. Brackets extend out from the door a bit more than the stainless do (off a bump side) and are overall in better condition but the upper mounting point is different as I had noted. Mirrors are good and some adhesive remover ought to help remove that convex lens. I am leaning towards using these for now with the upper bracket attachment from the stainless set. I would paint them with Rustoleum "Stainless" spray paint which is a flat silver that rather closely resembles..... you guessed it: Stainless steel!

The stainless brackets are fair with some obvious signs the mirrors were "adjusted" up or down by noting zig zag scratches on the arms. I thought sanded or scratched stainless would rust?? The mirror itself isn't perfect either with a little denting and broken glass. It looks as if the mirror glass is easily replaced. Is that the case? Also, was there some sort of gasket material used between the clamps on the bracket arms to keep the mirrors static? The stainless ones have some sort of calk or adhesive on them, and at some point someone must have gotten sick of them slipping down the bar because they screwed through these clamps to hold them in place.