1984 F250 Issues :(
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1984 F250 Issues :(
Truck:
-1984 F250 Diesel (ATS Turbo)
-4x4
-Manual
Heres the issue... My friend wanted an older diesel truck, and alas we found this 1984 f250. The ad said new fuel pump new fuel lines... But while cranking, it just spins and spins and spins.... i cannot tell if it is getting fuel, but the water/fuel seperator on top the engine has some fuel, as i am not inclined with these,(infact i am quite retarded) i have no idea what is wrong with it.
-I cannot hear the fuel pump turn on. infact im not sure where it is.
can anyone point me in the general direction of where i should even start?
Thanks, Tyler
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-1984 F250 Diesel (ATS Turbo)
-4x4
-Manual
Heres the issue... My friend wanted an older diesel truck, and alas we found this 1984 f250. The ad said new fuel pump new fuel lines... But while cranking, it just spins and spins and spins.... i cannot tell if it is getting fuel, but the water/fuel seperator on top the engine has some fuel, as i am not inclined with these,(infact i am quite retarded) i have no idea what is wrong with it.
-I cannot hear the fuel pump turn on. infact im not sure where it is.
can anyone point me in the general direction of where i should even start?
Thanks, Tyler
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No smoke 
ive got zero lights, except a glowing "Glow Plug" light on the bottom half of the dash.
on a second note, the engine temp guage flashes while cranking. is that normal?
ive got zero lights, except a glowing "Glow Plug" light on the bottom half of the dash.
on a second note, the engine temp guage flashes while cranking. is that normal?
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Lots of things to check. Like posted, check how long the WTS light comes on. If the GPs aren't working, you won't get it started without starting fluid (and DO NOT USE IT if the GPs are working AT ALL!).
Let us know, and we can troubleshoot and work it down to what it actually is. Don't want to throw out a dozen ideas that will overwhelm you.
Let us know, and we can troubleshoot and work it down to what it actually is. Don't want to throw out a dozen ideas that will overwhelm you.
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Lots of things to check. Like posted, check how long the WTS light comes on. If the GPs aren't working, you won't get it started without starting fluid (and DO NOT USE IT if the GPs are working AT ALL!).
Let us know, and we can troubleshoot and work it down to what it actually is. Don't want to throw out a dozen ideas that will overwhelm you.
Let us know, and we can troubleshoot and work it down to what it actually is. Don't want to throw out a dozen ideas that will overwhelm you.
ive got no wait to start light, and since its got the ats turbo, if i were to try the starting fluid would i shoot it in the turbo ?
and is there anyway to test the glow plugs? im so new to the IDI's its disgusting
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Don't stress it, we've all been in the same boat. This is the diesel I learned on.
Before you try starting fluid, disconnect the GP controller (hookup on the back of the driver side of the intake) Pull the air filter and give it a little spray there. It takes a small amount to fire. When I cooked my GPs, it would fire right up in below freezing mornings with a tiny spray.
With all the good folks here, we'll walk you through it.
Before you try starting fluid, disconnect the GP controller (hookup on the back of the driver side of the intake) Pull the air filter and give it a little spray there. It takes a small amount to fire. When I cooked my GPs, it would fire right up in below freezing mornings with a tiny spray.
With all the good folks here, we'll walk you through it.
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Man, i may have to start worshiping you instead of google. ill have to scour the garage and find some starting juice. is there any other alternative (brake cleaner?) and if i find some i guess its time to brave the misquitos and pull a GP wire lol
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DON'T pour gas down the intake, and if you do us starting fluid, use very sparingly. Brake cleaner would probably work, but that doesn't mean I'd try it.
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Just make sure NONE of those GPs are lighting up if you use starting fluid.
Rag soaked in gas, WD-40 I've heard, etc. I've only used starting fluid, tried the gas rag trick and couldn't get it to fire (ancient gas out of my TBird, that it wouldn't run on). Stick with the starting fluid if you can.
Rag soaked in gas, WD-40 I've heard, etc. I've only used starting fluid, tried the gas rag trick and couldn't get it to fire (ancient gas out of my TBird, that it wouldn't run on). Stick with the starting fluid if you can.
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tried brake cleaner, not much luck, tried wd40 not much luck, smallest amount of starting fluid left in the can and it made it fire....x2 on disabling glow plugs,j spin motor over, little shot of spray, and your off
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Ether is cheap and can be had just about anywhere and is how i start my pickup daily. Still have a hiccup in my GP controller i think... anyway. Your "glow plug" light, how long does it stay on? I would say you need to grab a test light and check a glow plug lead to make sure the plugs are getting power and for how long. Also, there is a quick easy test to do that will tell you if youre GPs are burnt out or not.
Lead on + battery, disconnect glowplug wire from GP, point of test light to GP. Im sure theres a write up about it better than what im spittin out, but im in a hurry sorry. If the light lights up, good GP if not, bad GP. If you end up doin GPs, it is strongly advised to use only motorcraft / beru brand glow plugs.
As noted above do not mix ether and GP's, i watched a head fly off a kabota tractor about 25' in the air, not me obviously, but there you have it.
Lead on + battery, disconnect glowplug wire from GP, point of test light to GP. Im sure theres a write up about it better than what im spittin out, but im in a hurry sorry. If the light lights up, good GP if not, bad GP. If you end up doin GPs, it is strongly advised to use only motorcraft / beru brand glow plugs.
As noted above do not mix ether and GP's, i watched a head fly off a kabota tractor about 25' in the air, not me obviously, but there you have it.
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the glow plug light stayed on for about and anhour and then i went to sleep and came out to find it was infact still lit...
ill look around for the write up on the testing procedure.
and i bought me some starter fluid, and i get off work in less than an hour. so fingers crossed
again, thanks to all of you
ill look around for the write up on the testing procedure.
and i bought me some starter fluid, and i get off work in less than an hour. so fingers crossed
again, thanks to all of you
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yep, you have wiring issues.
i'd get a wiring schematic if i were you.
the glow plug light and everything else should turn off with out the key.
i am willing to bet the fss isn't getting power.
i'd get a wiring schematic if i were you.
the glow plug light and everything else should turn off with out the key.
i am willing to bet the fss isn't getting power.