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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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4WD?

Lights on dash indicate it is in 4WD but, today in the sand the front wheels did nothing as we dug ourselves deeper in the rear.

What and where to check first?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Do you have esof? Or manual locking hubs. Try to manualally lock them.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FordGuy85
Do you have esof? Or manual locking hubs. Try to manualally lock them.
We have esof, the lights on the dash were lit (for what that's worth), the hubs are auto, they were set at counter clock wise, I got out and rotated them with no change.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Ran the tests today with the front wheels lifted, the auto hubs are trash, don't engage when 4WD is activated.

Same issue on our Ex too, guess its time to order some Warn hubs.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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When you put it in 4x4 does the a/c go to defrost? If so you have a vaccum leak which could be in the hub its self or a hose or the vaccum pump. The esof hubs are a common issue. They can be rebuilt btw
 
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lubbockguy1979
When you put it in 4x4 does the a/c go to defrost? If so you have a vaccum leak which could be in the hub its self or a hose or the vaccum pump. The esof hubs are a common issue. They can be rebuilt btw
I was not aware of that test, I will run it tomorrow.

Are the hubs worth rebuilding?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lubbockguy1979
When you put it in 4x4 does the a/c go to defrost? If so you have a vaccum leak which could be in the hub its self or a hose or the vaccum pump. The esof hubs are a common issue. They can be rebuilt btw
It's the same system? Good to know, I always assumed it would be a different system so that driveline functions wouldn't be affected by an ancillary system but go figure.

OP, There's a TSB out for the A/C system for the vacum lines leading to the control panel might be worth a quick diagnosis before taking the hubs apart.

05-14-9***LACK OF A/C COOLING - CLIMATE CONTROL MODE SELECTION NOT WORKING
 
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by w00ht
It's the same system? Good to know, I always assumed it would be a different system so that driveline functions wouldn't be affected by an ancillary system but go figure.

OP, There's a TSB out for the A/C system for the vacum lines leading to the control panel might be worth a quick diagnosis before taking the hubs apart.

05-14-9***LACK OF A/C COOLING - CLIMATE CONTROL MODE SELECTION NOT WORKING
I have a 2003 SD, assuming that TSB is not applicable?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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May be worth a look, the dashes were the same for a long time. But I'm not a tech, just trying to pass on some info I was digging through that seemed applicable.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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not sure about the SD but on one of my wifes explorers the motor went out and we didnt find out till we got a good snow and could have used it.The light said it was in but it wasn't.
Then on another one the shaft that the motor turns to engage 4wd broke, put a new motor on but still didn't work, traded that one in on an '07, so far so good, but the snows a comin. We'll see.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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The solenoid on the T-case is working, the case is shifting to 4WD so that is not an issue for us.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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that's good, hope it only turns out to be a cracked or broken vac line, or worse case bad hubs. they're alot cheaper than the rest mentioned
 
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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Yeah because chasing down a vacuum leak is always fun
 
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by obiwan kenobi
Yeah because chasing down a vacuum leak is always fun
You might even say it sucks....


(OK, someone had to)
 
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Do you have esof? Or manual locking hubs. Try to manualally lock them.
I feal like I should have explained myself bwtter here. On your auto hubs, you should have a manual selection. Try to manually lock them. Your front drive shaft should turn. If 4x4 works, then you are not getting any vacume and your hubs are good. If 4x4 is still not working, your hubs are shot.
 
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