A DP live tuned feedback
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A DP live tuned feedback
I had a chance to be live tuned at RRE(thanks again to Petey). With that I thought I would give some feedback
I don't have much to say yet as far as the famous 60o e tune only because I don't get on the highway as much as I need to to give an honest feedback. I will say the last 800 miles on the expressway I have seen a solid 1 mpg increase. The 80 e is what I use in the city here. I normally experience a traffic light every half mile. My MPG varies between 11 and 12 miles per gallon. Since using the new 80 e, I seem to be leaning more towards the 12.5 - 13 mpg range.
The truck no longer changes volume between stock and any of the new tunes, everything else still seems to be the same, including the perma grin I first had 5 + years ago when I received my first tune.
I don't have much to say yet as far as the famous 60o e tune only because I don't get on the highway as much as I need to to give an honest feedback. I will say the last 800 miles on the expressway I have seen a solid 1 mpg increase. The 80 e is what I use in the city here. I normally experience a traffic light every half mile. My MPG varies between 11 and 12 miles per gallon. Since using the new 80 e, I seem to be leaning more towards the 12.5 - 13 mpg range.
The truck no longer changes volume between stock and any of the new tunes, everything else still seems to be the same, including the perma grin I first had 5 + years ago when I received my first tune.
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Got my truck live tuned at RRE also. It idles smooth and quiet and the shifts are just right with the JW trans. No smoke in any tune, Although I never tried the 120. Don't know if I will either. Exhaust temps are all good, and on the trip back (625 mi.) got 18mpg. hand calculated. Not bad at all for a CC DRW. I'm happy with live tuning, It just brings it all together.
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I have an 03 7.3l 4x4 auto cc lwb dually with 4:10's and I am getting 17.5 on hwy. I recently got bigger injectors, turbo and custom PHP/beans tunes. Have not had a chance to see if there is any gain though.
Although I do not run DP anymore, I have plans for live tuning by next summer, just live to far away and I do not think they will be near anytime soon.
Although I do not run DP anymore, I have plans for live tuning by next summer, just live to far away and I do not think they will be near anytime soon.
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3:73? are you sure? You should be 4:11's ( which makes even less sense in the better milage)
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I have an 03 7.3l 4x4 auto cc lwb dually with 4:10's and I am getting 17.5 on hwy. I recently got bigger injectors, turbo and custom PHP/beans tunes. Have not had a chance to see if there is any gain though.
Although I do not run DP anymore, I have plans for live tuning by next summer, just live to far away and I do not think they will be near anytime soon.
Although I do not run DP anymore, I have plans for live tuning by next summer, just live to far away and I do not think they will be near anytime soon.
Sorry, PHP/Beans? I know I have not hung out here in this site as much as I should, but are they not two different tuners?
I would love to know the feed back with the biggger injectors and turb. Speakign to Skyjason at RRE, I feel that will be my next step in the pursuit of better milage. Although it will not happen at the sametime.
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There are a gajillion things that can rob MPGs, and I had half of them. I get 18 on a daily basis and I can sneak up on 20 on the long cruise-control runs. Have you had anybody hook up AE to your truck to find out what's going on in there? Are you lifted (tire size suggests you are)? Do you use fuel additive? Do you drive at least enough time and distance to let the truck "stretch its legs"? What is your altitude? Is the red line pulled and plugged? Do you have soot under the hood?
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There are a gajillion things that can rob MPGs, and I had half of them. I get 18 on a daily basis and I can sneak up on 20 on the long cruise-control runs. Have you had anybody hook up AE to your truck to find out what's going on in there? Are you lifted (tire size suggests you are)? Do you use fuel additive? Do you drive at least enough time and distance to let the truck "stretch its legs"? What is your altitude? Is the red line pulled and plugged? Do you have soot under the hood?
Good Morning,
AE hooked up, no not yet,
Lifted, no, same size tires since a week after i bought the truck
Fuel additive, no, tried a couple years back, made no difference then.
Drive the distance, On the highway, when I get there, at least 150 miles.
City driving, I have a traffic light every half mile, and I drive 13 miles to work. Poor truck.
No, I havent pulled the red line, are you suggesting better MPG if I do??
Altitude, 651 above
And no up pipe leaks (yet)
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Good Morning,
AE hooked up, no not yet,
Lifted, no, same size tires since a week after i bought the truck
Fuel additive, no, tried a couple years back, made no difference then.
Drive the distance, On the highway, when I get there, at least 150 miles.
City driving, I have a traffic light every half mile, and I drive 13 miles to work. Poor truck.
No, I havent pulled the red line, are you suggesting better MPG if I do??
Altitude, 651 above
And no up pipe leaks (yet)
AE hooked up, no not yet,
Lifted, no, same size tires since a week after i bought the truck
Fuel additive, no, tried a couple years back, made no difference then.
Drive the distance, On the highway, when I get there, at least 150 miles.
City driving, I have a traffic light every half mile, and I drive 13 miles to work. Poor truck.
No, I havent pulled the red line, are you suggesting better MPG if I do??
Altitude, 651 above
And no up pipe leaks (yet)
Fuel additive - oh yeah... big help for me. ULSD assaults injectors and your fuel system. I tried the regulars (like Diesel Kleen), but I found the Motorcraft stuff has better lubrication for the injectors. This might help you more than it did for me because my mileage never got that bad. [LINK] The bottle even fits in the door pocket (fancy that), but I buy it by the gallon and refill my 2 vehicle bottles. I would suggest dumping the whole bottle in there for the first application, then use as directed from then on.
Traffic lights - all I can say is go real easy on the accelerator. If I had that situation, I'd run Stinky in 60e tune for the lights because it makes better use of the coast clutch and the throttle is not as sensitive as the 80e.
I operate from 600 feet to 800 feet on a daily basis.
AE pointed out many issues on my truck and a few on another truck I visited with MPG problems. That last link in my sig can help if you have a multimeter and no AE. Look hard at the MAP sensor and the EBP sensor, they were bad on the two trucks I mentioned and they robbed significant HP/MPG.
Check the inside face of your rotors. Slide pins sieze on the calipers and the brakes like to rub on the inside of the rotors. I had this issue and ended up replacing everything with the word "brake" in it. A shudder while braking is a tattle-tail for this condition.
I put a temporary clear inline fuel filter on my fuel pump intake and I swear there was more air than fuel. The biggest problem I had was a bad seal on the stock quick-disconnect for the fuel pickup line. I did the hutch mod, complete with an external fuel/water separator and all new fuel line with diesel injector hose and injector clamps. No more air in my fuel. I have the FRx in the event air ever gets back in there.
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Pat, Yes I'm sure about the 3.73. I ordered my truck, and the choices were 4.10 limited slip, or 3.73 without. I was pissed about the LS but didn"t want 4.10 knowing I would never tow real heavy. I am going to add a True Trac in the near future however. Sorry for taking so long to respond. Wasn't around yesterday. All I know is if all your trucks systems are working to specs, and you keep the tire pressure as close to max as possable, you should be good, assuming you drive for mpg. Thats hard to do sometimes. I've been on a quest for mpg since I got the truck, and with the initial bump from an exhaust, intake, chip, etc, from banks (stinger plus) and the stuff currently in my sig, only the drivability and towing capability has improved. Which is great, but like I said before, I feel we eventually hit a wall. After we do all the things we can to get the 7.3 to burn as much of the fuel as we can stuff into it, thats it. I guess you need things like 4 valves per cylinder, etc.etc..
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you may need to be more specific in your question if you are looking for something.
For me, I have had the 80e for a while. WHen I first got it, There was lots of smoke, a lot of get up and go compared to the hypertech I ran. There was no increase, no decrease in milage in the city, on the highway, first trip I did better, but nothing consistant.
Three years later I was at RRE, I was able to get updates, I didnt notice anything different, no increase in anything. While playing with the switch, Inoticed the truck was louder when I switched between stock and any other programs, little less smoke on the 80e, but would still pour it out.
Now, I can switch between any tune, there is no sound difference. The get up and go doesnt appear to have any difference, the smok is significantly less. and I am seeing an increase in my city mpg. I have waited for 4 tanks full to make sure it wasnt a fluke.
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I thought I read somewhere where in this thread that you said it was a new economy tune. I skimmed it over twice and couldn't find it again. Sorry about that.
There is a RIDICULOUS increase in engine noise (even at idle) when I switch from stock to any tune. I have to take my chip out to get reburned soon anyhow. I had to get my trans rebuilt last winter and I guess the rebuild doesn't agree with the DP Tuner. Jody said it shouldn't be a problem, it is just that they trans guys changed a few things that make it shift really hard now.
I'm with you. I haven't seen an increase in milage with any tune, but I have seen a major increase in power without a loss in economy. Sounds like a win to me. I asked Jody if he could make the throttle less touchy (esp in 80e) he said that is the increase in power and you can't change it. I have heard some rumors that he changes the throttle push to throttle applied ratio to make it feel like it has more power, but he must not or he could change it to a "stock pedal push" tune.
There is a RIDICULOUS increase in engine noise (even at idle) when I switch from stock to any tune. I have to take my chip out to get reburned soon anyhow. I had to get my trans rebuilt last winter and I guess the rebuild doesn't agree with the DP Tuner. Jody said it shouldn't be a problem, it is just that they trans guys changed a few things that make it shift really hard now.
I'm with you. I haven't seen an increase in milage with any tune, but I have seen a major increase in power without a loss in economy. Sounds like a win to me. I asked Jody if he could make the throttle less touchy (esp in 80e) he said that is the increase in power and you can't change it. I have heard some rumors that he changes the throttle push to throttle applied ratio to make it feel like it has more power, but he must not or he could change it to a "stock pedal push" tune.
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I thought I read somewhere where in this thread that you said it was a new economy tune. I skimmed it over twice and couldn't find it again. Sorry about that.
There is a RIDICULOUS increase in engine noise (even at idle) when I switch from stock to any tune. I have to take my chip out to get reburned soon anyhow. I had to get my trans rebuilt last winter and I guess the rebuild doesn't agree with the DP Tuner. Jody said it shouldn't be a problem, it is just that they trans guys changed a few things that make it shift really hard now.
I'm with you. I haven't seen an increase in milage with any tune, but I have seen a major increase in power without a loss in economy. Sounds like a win to me. I asked Jody if he could make the throttle less touchy (esp in 80e) he said that is the increase in power and you can't change it. I have heard some rumors that he changes the throttle push to throttle applied ratio to make it feel like it has more power, but he must not or he could change it to a "stock pedal push" tune.
There is a RIDICULOUS increase in engine noise (even at idle) when I switch from stock to any tune. I have to take my chip out to get reburned soon anyhow. I had to get my trans rebuilt last winter and I guess the rebuild doesn't agree with the DP Tuner. Jody said it shouldn't be a problem, it is just that they trans guys changed a few things that make it shift really hard now.
I'm with you. I haven't seen an increase in milage with any tune, but I have seen a major increase in power without a loss in economy. Sounds like a win to me. I asked Jody if he could make the throttle less touchy (esp in 80e) he said that is the increase in power and you can't change it. I have heard some rumors that he changes the throttle push to throttle applied ratio to make it feel like it has more power, but he must not or he could change it to a "stock pedal push" tune.
As far as the sensitivity, I think I read the samething as you, recently. I dont recall which thread it was though. I dont know if it was something that was suggested, or it was fact. I know tuggly suggested it was a Ploy of sort to make you feel like you were going faster quicker. Not that the tune wasnt there, just the wow factor was quicker reached.