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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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please help with this t case problem.

Hello, I have a 93 f150 4x4, e40d trans and an electric shift borg warner 1356 t case. What's happening is on an uphill take off, especially when turning in 2wd it feels like my tcase is jumping in and out of gear it goes clunk, clunk, clunk in a rotational pattern. When going down steep hills and braking i get grinding, like a gear is trying to be selected. The truck only has 36k on it, but all suspension is like new, all mounts ok, warn premium manual hubs, all drive linke u joints ok, shocks new. I can't find anything wrong. t case fluid clean. I had an aussie locker in the rear but I removed it to make sure that wasn't causing it. Any help would be great, I'm leaning towards a broken fork in the tcase letting a colar move when it shouldn't but i'm no expert at all and don't want to rip apart my tcase for no reason. Thanks! 4x4 works fine in all ranges.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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If it was a T-Case problem, it should not care if you are turning or going straight.

What I would do is get a permanent marker, and mark the locations/angles of your front u-joints and driveshaft, and see if they are turning while driving. It almost seems to me like your hubs may not be unlocking fully.

Other than that, I know the 1356 case was prone to oil-pump failure, which will tear them up quite quickly.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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Sorry I should have been more specific. I get the clunk clunk noise when turning up a hill from a stop or loading it up hill from a stop. It's like something is floating around in there, because i'm putting a big load on it that way. Ive marked the drive shaft as well and it doesn't appear to be turning. Thanks for the reply!
 
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 01:58 AM
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Also I put warn premium manual hubs on it a while ago, whey defenatily are not partially engaged.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 06:04 AM
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My electric 1356 did that too. At first it would slip (only under load) in 4H or 4L... just like you describe, a rotational-sounding clunk. Then a while later it would start grinding in 2H just driving down the road under light power. Eventually, I pulled into a parking spot at the store and then couldn't reverse out to leave... transfer case wouldn't stay engaged with transmission in reverse. So I drove forward over the curb, and planned on getting my Ranger ready to drive in the next day or so. The next night I am driving in 2H and it loses everything. Just like it was in neutral... well I limped it back and tore it apart. The oil pump busted loose (common problem) and spun around and trashed the shift forks.

This was a great chance to upgrade, so I went to the yard, got a manual 1356 plus linkage, shifter, etc... rebuilt that case with the oil pump mod and bolted it in. Cut a hole in the floor, put shifter in... done.

Now I enjoy a manual 1356, NO soccer-mom pushbuttons here! A rebuilt case and a good, fun learning experience for me.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Thanks for your input. I pulled the tcase out today, it had a couple 1/2" strands of brass in the oil. When i tilted the tcase up and down like i was going up or down a hill there was a clunk each way, and when i tilt it forward or backwards while spinning the input shaft the front drive line yoke randomly rotates 1/3 a turn. I think my problem lies in the tcase, i'll open it up tomarrow. I was just sceptical about opening it up because the truck only has 36k on it and didn't think it would break soo soon. I think the aussie locker killed something in there.
 
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Nah, the 1356 is a tough case. A locker wouldn't have hurt it. More than likely the oil pump broke and took out some things inside of it.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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t case was in excelent shape. Just what youd expect for 36 k miles. going to put back in truck. also going to lube slip spline going into t case and put the slip pads between the crossmember to frame to see if that helps. Replaced rear u joints just because. They were fine.
 
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Fixed the problem.
 
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