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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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I have a loan through Navy Federal Credit Union, and its 1.99% for 72 months. Good credit ratings really help with purchase/loan power.
NFCU here, same rate and term too.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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We just got 0% for 60 months financing directly from Ford on our 2012 F350. That is the best deal around!
 
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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We just got 0% for 60 months financing directly from Ford on our 2012 F350. That is the best deal around!
Yes, but you lost out on a significant rebate to get the 0%.

You really don't think they give you 0% because they like you, do you? If you take the 0%, you WILL pay up front for it.

It worked out to my favor to take the Ford going rate, take all rebates and then refinance at 1.49%
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Yes, but you lost out on a significant rebate to get the 0%.

You really don't think they give you 0% because they like you, do you? If you take the 0%, you WILL pay up front for it.

It worked out to my favor to take the Ford going rate, take all rebates and then refinance at 1.49%
Kind of but not really, I lost $2k in rebates. So I paid slightly more up front but with 0% I can put less down and keep more in my pocket. I can re-invest that money in something else that can actually make me money....

Always take the 0% when the prices are close.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Kind of but not really, I lost $2k in rebates. So I paid slightly more up front but with 0% I can put less down and keep more in my pocket. I can re-invest that money in something else that can actually make me money....

Always take the 0% when the prices are close.
Wait, what???????

Let's just take an arbitrary number of $22,500 (assuming a person puts down half of vehicle price).

At 1.49% (PenFed current rate on a refinance), after 60 monthly payments, you will have paid $860 =/-.

You took the 0.00% and gave up $2K of rebate.

Over $1100 saved is not exactly what I would call the price being close.

You lost $1100 to save a few bucks on your monthly payment amount.

And as far as re-investing the money you "kept in your pocket", if you didn't do it on day one, you won't. Just like 99.999% of the other folks who say the same thing.

Not arguing with you, just pointing out the facts.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Wait, what???????

Let's just take an arbitrary number of $22,500 (assuming a person puts down half of vehicle price).

At 1.49% (PenFed current rate on a refinance), after 60 monthly payments, you will have paid $860 =/-.

You took the 0.00% and gave up $2K of rebate.

Over $1100 saved is not exactly what I would call the price being close.

You lost $1100 to save a few bucks on your monthly payment amount.

And as far as re-investing the money you "kept in your pocket", if you didn't do it on day one, you won't. Just like 99.999% of the other folks who say the same thing.

Not arguing with you, just pointing out the facts.

You are correct, if you put down half the numbers make sense. But also it makes sense that if you have 0% putting down half is a bad way to tie up money in an item that is losing value every month....

Why would you tie up $20k+ for 1.49%? You can make double that on just CDs not to mention other bonds that make more.

Work smarter not harder.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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You are correct, if you put down half the numbers make sense. But also it makes sense that if you have 0% putting down half is a bad way to tie up money in an item that is losing value every month....

Why would you tie up $20k+ for 1.49%? You can make double that on just CDs not to mention other bonds that make more.

Work smarter not harder.
Sorry Rommel but JH is correct on this one. You're neglecting the time value of money from your calculations - what you could have earned on the $2,000 you saved in that 5yr period. Above that, even borrowing the full $45,000 at 1.49%, you only pay $1,725 in interest charges. Not a big difference but when you factor in the future value of that $2,000, even at only 3%, you make another $325. A higher interest rate or less borrowed makes an even bigger difference.

You are correct on putting down half the cost but still dragging it out over 5yrs, that's probably not the best option from a purely finance standpoint.

Obviously everyone's situation is different, but in general you're better off taking the rebates up front.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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Sorry Rommel but JH is correct on this one. You're neglecting the time value of money from your calculations - what you could have earned on the $2,000 you saved in that 5yr period. Above that, even borrowing the full $45,000 at 1.49%, you only pay $1,725 in interest charges. Not a big difference but when you factor in the future value of that $2,000, even at only 3%, you make another $325. A higher interest rate or less borrowed makes an even bigger difference.

You are correct on putting down half the cost but still dragging it out over 5yrs, that's probably not the best option from a purely finance standpoint.

Obviously everyone's situation is different, but in general you're better off taking the rebates up front.


You can have your own way of slicing things but your argument on saving a significant amount of money is only valid if you put down ~ half or more.

With 0% you never have to tie up all that money.


Either way to each their own, I know what works for me.....


I am just glad we can afford this wonderful trucks! Cheers!
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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You can have your own way of slicing things but your argument on saving a significant amount of money is only valid if you put down ~ half or more.
What I really dont get is why someone would want a $800 car payment? You are not making up $400 a month on a $20K investment, every month for 60 months. No way, no how.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rommel
You can have your own way of slicing things but your argument on saving a significant amount of money is only valid if you put down ~ half or more.

With 0% you never have to tie up all that money.


Either way to each their own, I know what works for me.....


I am just glad we can afford this wonderful trucks! Cheers!
It's not really slicing things, it's math. I guess it depends what you consider a significant amount.

Regardless, it's not worth arguing over, everyone makes the decision that suits them best. Congrats on the new truck, and you're exactly right, the truck is the important part, how you pay for it is really irrelevant.
 
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