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Cowl stamp deciphering help!

I searched for answers, but none of the references I found on here match the order of the cowl stamp on my '51 F4:

RH F4 H 2IH 2272

I read that as:

RH = Richmond plant
F4 = F4
H = is this color (Silvertone Gray) or 226 I6 engine?
2IH = ?? maybe it's a 21 for the 21st of August
2272 = number off the line

I found several references to similar stamps but the layout was different.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:49 PM
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There is a vin decoder on this sight. I haven't tried it on my 1950 f1, but it worked on my 1979 f150.
 
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Thanks, but it's not my VIN. That's on the plate on my cowl, stamped into the frame and on the tag on the glove box door.

This is the stamp in the center of my cowl, and it is unlike any I've seen explained here. The spacing is just as I typed it: RH F4 H 2IH 2272.
 
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Well I hadn't noticed anything like that on my f1, but I haven't really been looking for anything like that. Guess I should though.
 
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Well I hadn't noticed anything like that on my f1, but I haven't really been looking for anything like that. Guess I should though.
That's funny, because I've had this truck for a year, and never looked for this stamp until today. I don't know if it's on all Ford trucks, but I know it's on the '48 to '52s.
 
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe View Post
I searched for answers, but none of the references I found on here match the order of the cowl stamp on my '51 F4:

RH F4 H 2IH 2272

I read that as:

RH = Richmond plant
F4 = F4
H = is this color (Silvertone Gray) or 226 I6 engine?
2IH = ?? maybe it's a 21 for the 21st of August
2272 = number off the line

I found several references to similar stamps but the layout was different.

Any help would be appreciated.
It's my uneducated opinion that you have deciphered it here as good as it's going to get. I'd say someone got a little crazy with the stamps and mixed up the standard order, but all the info is there. And you're correct, it's 21 August for the build date code. H would be color code.
 
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Just to poke a little further, from reading some stuff on-line, I'm believing that the 2272 means the 2,272th of that model off the line? Not the 2,272th truck, but the 2,272th F-4 (in this case)?

Likewise, on the serial numbers, is this the same numbering used? So there could be a #002272 F-1 as well as a #002272 F-4? Since the cabs were all the same, I don't know why they would do that, but several sources imply that was the case.
 
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Thanks, but I read that one before starting this thread. It's not the same sequence on the '49 or '50 apparently, as Harlymsn Joe's truck cowl stamp number is arranged differently.
 
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It's my uneducated opinion that you have deciphered it here as good as it's going to get. I'd say someone got a little crazy with the stamps and mixed up the standard order, but all the info is there. And you're correct, it's 21 August for the build date code. H would be color code.
I thought the date stamp must mean 21 August, even thought the stamped "1" looks like an "I".

I was mainly looking for verification of the color stamp being the central "H", which is Silvertone Gray for '51. I didn't think the cowl stamp indicated the engine, i.e. H for the 226 I6. So that's what I'm going to go with for the stamp decipher.

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Thanks, but I read that one before starting this thread. It's not the same sequence on the '49 or '50 apparently, as Harlymsn Joe's truck cowl stamp number is arranged differently.
As I mentioned above, I think you just have an anomaly with a mixed up order. The most odd thing about yours is the apparent series code (F4) stamped there. That is unusual. But keep in mind we aren't talking about rocket scientists, here. These are guys who had a hammer and a rack of stamps in their hands going as fast as they can on moving vehicles. Anyway, that's my 2c, fwiw.
 
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Just to poke a little further, from reading some stuff on-line, I'm believing that the 2272 means the 2,272th of that model off the line? Not the 2,272th truck, but the 2,272th F-4 (in this case)?

Likewise, on the serial numbers, is this the same numbering used? So there could be a #002272 F-1 as well as a #002272 F-4? Since the cabs were all the same, I don't know why they would do that, but several sources imply that was the case.
That is my understanding too, that this was the 2,272nd F4 produced in 1951. I can't believe they made that many F4s just in Richmond in 1951, but maybe they did.
 
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I thought that the sequence number was the vehicle number coming down the line whether it was a truck or a car, and not necessarily the particular number of the specific vehicle being built.

Also, where did you find the stampings on the cowl? My 52 was also made in Richmond, but I don't see anything stamped on the cowl. My 51 was made in Highland Park, MI and also doesn't seem to have the stampings on the cowl.

I thought that only 48-50s had the stampings on the cowl.
 
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Here's the stamp. From the pic you may not be able to tell, but it's just to the driver's side of center.

 

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