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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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fuel filter valve left open

I have a 2010 f-450 6.4 diesel, I had the oil changed at the local ford dealer. As part of the service they drained the water from the fuel filter. The techs. failed to re-close the valve to the fuel filter drain so as I was driving home the truck suddenly shut down. I pulled to the shoulder and saw a pool of diesel fuel under my truck. I tried to re-start it, but it failed to do so. When the tech. from the dealer came he had me turn the key on for about 50 seconds then off again to try to re-prime the fuel system. I repeated this about sixteen times but the truck failed to start. The next tech.showed up with his lap top to try to get the computer out of what he called the, "Fail Safe" mode. He turned the key and the truck started but shut right down after he un-plugged his lap top. He tried again with the lap-top, but couldn't get it started. They sent me off in a loaner car while they had my truck towed back to the dealership. When I called a couple of hours later they said the truck started about three more times but every tim shut right down again. The now told me they had to send for a "fix kit" from ford that would solve the fuel delivery problem and get the engine running again. With all this being said, my question is; How much damage if any did they do to my truck by leaving this fuel filter valve open, and me driving down the road until it quit running? Is the fuel delivery system going to have lingering problems? What other residual problems might this screw-up have caused?
I use this truck to tow a 18,000 lb. plus Toy Hauler through the Colorado mountains and I have to depend on the engine running flawlessly. If anyone has some insite about my predicament it would be much appreciated!!

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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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You should find good info in 6.4 section about it.
I run out of fuel in my 7.3 several times and if you don't push it dry, couple of cycles with priming pump is all it takes. I heard that newer injectors hate to be run dry. Good luck.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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Moved to the 6.4L Powerstroke Diesel forum.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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You are a victim of unsupervised apprentices in the dealership.

I honestly don't think you will have any damage because of this issue.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 06:12 AM
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probably no damage but I ask for new filters and a check of the fuel bowl for any metal. Doubt you'd find anything wrong.

I'd ask for the head...actual diesel tech to do the job.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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Any high pressure common rail fuel pump does not like to be starved of a fuel supply, fuel is the only thing that lubricates them.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ljutic ss
Any high pressure common rail fuel pump does not like to be starved of a fuel supply, fuel is the only thing that lubricates them.

That is right,

The truck has so many sensors that I'm sure it realises if there is a fuel problem, and I'm assuming it won't keep firing injectors if there is no fuel pressure.

One would assume, anyways.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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I don't get it. It doesn't sound like you ran the tank dry, did you? Did air get in the fuel rail? I ask because my fuel filter valve was leaking real bad a couple years ago. The volume of the leak was just about like the volume when I open the drain. I couldn't stop the flow and I was way out in the boonies in Utah. Anyway, I found by accident that when the truck was running the valve quit leaking. I guess the demand for fuel was able to overpower the leak. Seems like the same thing would happen to your truck with the valve open. I drove ( towing my 5er) a few hundred miles. I had to put a big bucket under the truck while it sat over night to keep from making a mess in the camp grounds.. I think it was three days until I got it into the dealer. I didn't have any problems with restarts and no residual effects.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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I'm thinking he was simply dripping fuel out a lot quicker.......
 
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