Question: 2005 or older
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Question: 2005 or older
Im moving out of my '99 7.3 ext cab and looking at a newer crew cab. It will be a diesel of course and am wondering the good and bad between 2005-up models compared to 2004-down. I know the 7.3 years and such but I think I am going for a 6.0 model this time around. I have driven a friends and like the way it drives. I love the 7.3 but the 6.0 just feels more usable in day to day driving. I am real familiar with what to do with the 6.0 after I get it. Im asking more about the differences in the truck itself. Thanks..
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The 2005+ trucks have:
Coil spring front suspension vs leaf springs on 2004 and older.
5R110 transmission vs 4R100. (03-04 6.0 trucks also have the 5R110, gassers didn't get it until 05)
Larger brakes
17" or 18" wheels (16" wheels won't fit over the newer brakes)
Updated grille, headlights, and front bumper
Updated instrument panel
Integrated trailer brake controller and upfitter switches (these were options so not all trucks will have them)
Also...doesn't concern you if you are looking for a diesel, but the 5.4 and V-10 were upgraded to the 3V versions in 05.
Coil spring front suspension vs leaf springs on 2004 and older.
5R110 transmission vs 4R100. (03-04 6.0 trucks also have the 5R110, gassers didn't get it until 05)
Larger brakes
17" or 18" wheels (16" wheels won't fit over the newer brakes)
Updated grille, headlights, and front bumper
Updated instrument panel
Integrated trailer brake controller and upfitter switches (these were options so not all trucks will have them)
Also...doesn't concern you if you are looking for a diesel, but the 5.4 and V-10 were upgraded to the 3V versions in 05.
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I knew about the transmission. Is the suspension a better setup? Is it your opinion that its a better truck worth paying extra for? Thanks again. I'm just trying to decide if I want to look for '05 and up or not. Not really concerned with how old it is, just want some opinions on which one everyone likes the best.
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2005 trans is better than the '03-4? First time i have heard that, thanks. When you say 'better suspension', is that because of the coil spring front end? I have read the turning radius is better on the '05, is the ride improved also or they about the same?
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The 2005+ have coil fronts, which enables the better turning radius, and yes, the ride is improved.
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And.....I think the '05-up look a little nicer as well. I sorta had my mind set on a '05 but wanted to make sure there wasn't a skeleton in the closet I haven't heard about. Its hard to part with the '99 though, its been a reliable piece of machinery for a lot of years. I'm planning to sell both vehicles in my sig and go to just a crew cab truck.
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Also, the 2005+ trucks have heavier frames.
I think the bigger brakes, Tow/Haul mode and the factory TBS (which is tied into the ABS and the transmission, so the truck modulates the trailer brakes and downshifts rapidly during a panic stop) are worth the price of admission.
I think the bigger brakes, Tow/Haul mode and the factory TBS (which is tied into the ABS and the transmission, so the truck modulates the trailer brakes and downshifts rapidly during a panic stop) are worth the price of admission.
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Didn't realize the frames were actually heavier. I guess I just assumed they were the same other than the necessary changes for the front suspension.
I would agree, those improvements are worth the extra price, plus the newer 6.0s had fewer problems too.
I would agree, those improvements are worth the extra price, plus the newer 6.0s had fewer problems too.
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There were some changes but don't know if they're heavier per ce. Maybe a better steel to provide the greater load capability? It's not mentioned in the 2005 Supderduty Brochure so I wouldn't think it was that much heavier or they would have touted it more.
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Here's the brochure for '05' with the upgrades.
http://www.meadowlandford.com/2005%2...y_brochure.pdf
Maybe help the guys deciding on a '05' or newer year truck.
http://www.meadowlandford.com/2005%2...y_brochure.pdf
Maybe help the guys deciding on a '05' or newer year truck.