Early Sixties Econoline Identification
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Early Sixties Econoline Identification
I have an Econoline that has been parked out in the weather for thirty years. I am currently digging it out of the bushes and intend to restore or fiddle with it. It is an eight door. I need some help with ID. Part of this info I have found, but I can't find any reference for the "F" transmission. The sticker on the visor says it is a four speed on the column. This vehicle was running when parked. The top is caved from heavy snow (average fifteen feet per year, and most of the roof braces are broken. Other than that, better than you would expect. For grins and giggles I hooked up a battery and sprayed some ether down the throat. Not only did she turn over, she fired briefly. I am just amazed!
Warranty Number
E14TH487486
WB 190 Color M Mod E143 Body 589 Trans F Axle 2
GVW 3600 IRS Cert. Net HP 85 RPM 3600 DSO 72
There is nothing under that IRS marking. I am having trouble getting the lines to match up in the post.
Is this a 65?
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Yardpilot
Warranty Number
E14TH487486
WB 190 Color M Mod E143 Body 589 Trans F Axle 2
GVW 3600 IRS Cert. Net HP 85 RPM 3600 DSO 72
There is nothing under that IRS marking. I am having trouble getting the lines to match up in the post.
Is this a 65?
Regards,
Yardpilot
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The F transmission is indeed a four-speed Dagenham transmission.
You've got a 1964 model that was assembled in December 1963.
The combination of 170 cui engine and 4.00:1 rear axle ratio means this van was designed to haul stuff around town and not spend too much time on the highway.
You mentioned that it is an 8-door, which means that it has cargo doors on both the left and right sides. That's fairly rare in these vans.
Get the full breakdown of your dataplate info here:
www.econolineid.com
The "IRS" marking you mentioned is really "LBS," which is the total "pounds" that the van and maximum load can weigh. In your case, the van weighs about 2,600 pounds empty, so you can carry a total load of 1,000 pounds (driver, passengers, and cargo) to reach your maximum gross vehicle weight of 3,600 pounds.
You've got a 1964 model that was assembled in December 1963.
The combination of 170 cui engine and 4.00:1 rear axle ratio means this van was designed to haul stuff around town and not spend too much time on the highway.
You mentioned that it is an 8-door, which means that it has cargo doors on both the left and right sides. That's fairly rare in these vans.
Get the full breakdown of your dataplate info here:
www.econolineid.com
The "IRS" marking you mentioned is really "LBS," which is the total "pounds" that the van and maximum load can weigh. In your case, the van weighs about 2,600 pounds empty, so you can carry a total load of 1,000 pounds (driver, passengers, and cargo) to reach your maximum gross vehicle weight of 3,600 pounds.
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Thank you for the information. It is greatly appreciated. The length fits with the 90, but the tag definitely says 190. Don't quite get that. I think this will make a great cruise/parade vehicle if I can get the project off the ground. Looking good, though. Again, thanks.
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Thanks. Appreciate the info. The length fits the 090, but the tag definitely says 190. I don't quite get that. This should make a great cruise/parade vehicle. Again, thanks.
Yardpilot
Yup, it's that guy.
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Yup, it's that guy.
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Is the WB number right up against the rivet? Many are, and most of the leading zero is behind the rivet making it look like "190" rather than "090."
Of course it's always possible that the guy punching the tags made a mistake. You know they didn't have computers back then. If they did have computers, we would have expected more mistakes.
Of course it's always possible that the guy punching the tags made a mistake. You know they didn't have computers back then. If they did have computers, we would have expected more mistakes.
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I have an Econoline that has been parked out in the weather for thirty years. I am currently digging it out of the bushes and intend to restore or fiddle with it. It is an eight door. I need some help with ID. Part of this info I have found, but I can't find any reference for the "F" transmission. The sticker on the visor says it is a four speed on the column. This vehicle was running when parked. The top is caved from heavy snow (average fifteen feet per year, and most of the roof braces are broken. Other than that, better than you would expect. For grins and giggles I hooked up a battery and sprayed some ether down the throat. Not only did she turn over, she fired briefly. I am just amazed!
Warranty Number
E14TH487486 / W.B. 090 / Color: M / Model: E143 / Body: 589 / Trans: F / Axle: 02 / GVW: 3600 / Cert. Net HP: 85 / / RPM: 3600 / DSO: 72
Warranty Number
E14TH487486 / W.B. 090 / Color: M / Model: E143 / Body: 589 / Trans: F / Axle: 02 / GVW: 3600 / Cert. Net HP: 85 / / RPM: 3600 / DSO: 72
T = 170 1V I-6.
H = Lorain OH Assembly Plant.
487486 = 1964, assembled December 1963.
90" Wheelbase.
M = Wimbledon White.
E143 = E100 Van, 3,600 lbs. GVWR
589: 5 = Red Crush Vinyl & Red Stitch Vinyl / 89 = Econoline Van.
F = Dagenham 4 Speed Manual Transmission (4 on-the-tree!).
02 = Ford WCC-C 7" Rear Axle / 4.00-1 / 2,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.
3,600 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
85 net HP @ 3,600 RPM
72: San Jose (NorCal) Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the Econoline from.
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