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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Question what to do

so i finally had the problem of a plug blow out on me and the threads are gone, so im wondering what should i do, replace the heads 1,400.00 by my trusted mechanic or get a complete reman long block with a 7yr warranty for around 3,000.00?
i love this damn beast of mine and i plan on keeping it for a very long time or at least till i pull the trigger on a f-650 crewcab 4x4 or the raptor?so i wanna hear from my trusty and the select few who know what its like to own a excursion buddies lol.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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I say heli coil that sucker and drive on........
 
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by goodmatt2002
I say heli coil that sucker and drive on........
My sentiments exactly.

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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by goodmatt2002
I say heli coil that sucker and drive on........
Do NOT use helicoil for this problem.

Use an insert like Timesert or Lock-n-stitch only. DO NOT HELICOIL.

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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 11:37 PM
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so how reliable is this time-sert? cause im thinking that during the heating and cooling cycles overtime would weaken the contact between the time-sert and the aluminum head especially with the time-sert being a different metal compound then the aluminum they will expand and contract at different rates so then im back to where i started from with the time-sert with plug possibly blowing out of the head. now i know this might take a long time to happen but its just my thoughts.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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Fix the plug and put aside money for new long block. One way or another you'll likely need a new motor at some point down the road. Get some more use out of current motor
 
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bigrigmike
so how reliable is this time-sert?
Very reliable. Tried and true and used for many, many years now.

...cause im thinking that during the heating and cooling cycles overtime would weaken the contact between the time-sert and the aluminum head especially with the time-sert being a different metal compound then the aluminum
Nope. The Timesert inserts for the Ford's are made of aluminum, just like the heads.

Lock-N-Stitch won the contract to be the "official" Ford insert for repairing spark plug launchings, but Timeserts have been used for years before Lock-N-Stitch was approved, and still are being used.

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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 01:17 AM
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[quote=Stewart_H;12035195]Very reliable. Tried and true and used for many, many years now.



Nope. The Timesert inserts for the Ford's are made of aluminum, just like the heads.

so if its aluminum couldnt it strip out just like before?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 01:20 AM
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quick fix it .. then put aside the $$$ and buy a second longblock and start building it up .. then one day do a motor swap
 
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Originally Posted by bigrigmike
so if its aluminum couldnt it strip out just like before?
If properly installed, no, they lock in.

The insert is a threaded bushing (threaded inside for the spark plug, and threaded outside to lock in to the cylinder head) that through the process of installing, locks into the hole from the bottom.

Time-Sert

Thread Repair Using a TIME-SERT Insert- YouTube

More info here, in one of my previous posts: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11373496

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Another idea: This is what I did (granted I had a bad valve). I found a wrecked X with only 91k on it. The wrecking yard gave me 90 day warranty. Had it installed by a mechanic that did it on the side. I paid $1600 for the engine. Another $100 for fluids, gaskets and studs. He installed it for $500. An engine swap on these books at 10 hours. Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market
 
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well it seems like im gonna do the time-sert for now and get me a nice long block and maybe even get a tranny for the future
 
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