EFI 460 Build questions
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EFI 460 Build questions
I'm going to try to keep this short, though most of my posts end up long.
I'm looking for advice on a 460 build for the truck in my sig. I'm going to first acquire information and then over the next year or two buy components as money allows.
I've got an '03 Focus as a DD, but I'd still like to build the engine as a more powerful version of the stock personality so that the truck could still continue as a daily driver in the future if need be (well, as much of a daily driver as a 460 equipped vehicle will ever be). While I don't plan for it to be a road queen, I do cover a fair share of miles hauling around hand tools and small amounts of materials (basically unloaded), but I also pull a 28' 5th wheel (may upgrade in the future to slightly larger) and it's used on the farm. I've got a '93 Dana 60 axle that I plan to swap in in the future along with a Gear Vendor OD unit. When the GV goes in, I'm going to re-gear both the front and rear axles (and add limited slip/lockers) to maintain the same highway RPMs or slightly lower than my 3.55 give me now depending on what will give me the best highway mileage. I'll probably also step up to a 33-34" tire (385 75r16 or similar on 17" or 18" rims). Here are some things I'd like to set as goals:
I'm looking for advice on a 460 build for the truck in my sig. I'm going to first acquire information and then over the next year or two buy components as money allows.
I've got an '03 Focus as a DD, but I'd still like to build the engine as a more powerful version of the stock personality so that the truck could still continue as a daily driver in the future if need be (well, as much of a daily driver as a 460 equipped vehicle will ever be). While I don't plan for it to be a road queen, I do cover a fair share of miles hauling around hand tools and small amounts of materials (basically unloaded), but I also pull a 28' 5th wheel (may upgrade in the future to slightly larger) and it's used on the farm. I've got a '93 Dana 60 axle that I plan to swap in in the future along with a Gear Vendor OD unit. When the GV goes in, I'm going to re-gear both the front and rear axles (and add limited slip/lockers) to maintain the same highway RPMs or slightly lower than my 3.55 give me now depending on what will give me the best highway mileage. I'll probably also step up to a 33-34" tire (385 75r16 or similar on 17" or 18" rims). Here are some things I'd like to set as goals:
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couple bookmarks i saved for if i can ever rebuild my 460
Rein"Car"nation High Performance / porting services
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ds-update.html
Rein"Car"nation High Performance / porting services
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ds-update.html
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couple bookmarks i saved for if i can ever rebuild my 460
Rein"Car"nation High Performance / porting services
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ds-update.html
Rein"Car"nation High Performance / porting services
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ds-update.html
Some other information I forgot to put in my first post:
- I have a complete 460 from an '88 F-250 with the E7TE heads. I'll be able to build the block over time on the stand while still driving my truck as is.
- I think I'm going to go with a set of Tri-Y headers such as the Doug Thorleys for best low and mid-range torque output
- I live in Iowa so there are no smog checks, and I'm already running without a catalytic converter through a 3" single exhaust; I use a straight through Magnaflow & straight pipe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2w3DBEsN0
I know that the F3TE heads have a larger intake valve and a different sized (smaller???) chamber than the E7TE heads. If I plan to install larger valves and new pistons (for a bored block), can the E7TE heads on the '88 block be made equal to the the F3TE heads, or should I find a set of F3TE heads at a JY? Would it be better to use aftermarket heads and intake (carb version) and install the EFI components to that?
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I'll toss in another bookmark related the the rein Car nation info. The Mad Porter, owner of rein car nation, posted on this thread in the 460engine.com forum. He lists what is needed to add horsepower to an EFI 460 in priority order.
EFI rebuild handholding... - 460 Ford Forum
I'm just starting a rebuild of an 88 F250 with a 460. I can't answer your F3TE vs E7TE head question.
EFI rebuild handholding... - 460 Ford Forum
I'm just starting a rebuild of an 88 F250 with a 460. I can't answer your F3TE vs E7TE head question.
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I'll toss in another bookmark related the the rein Car nation info. The Mad Porter, owner of rein car nation, posted on this thread in the 460engine.com forum. He lists what is needed to add horsepower to an EFI 460 in priority order.
EFI rebuild handholding... - 460 Ford Forum
I'm just starting a rebuild of an 88 F250 with a 460. I can't answer your F3TE vs E7TE head question.
EFI rebuild handholding... - 460 Ford Forum
I'm just starting a rebuild of an 88 F250 with a 460. I can't answer your F3TE vs E7TE head question.
Thanks for the link; I hadn't seen that post by the Mad Porter yet (though I have read many of his others).
It looks like I'm going to want to go with the F3TE heads for the better intake runners and a much better quench area. If anybody has a spare set, I'm in the market now .
I'm going to quote the linked post and ask a few questions I have:
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
In order of importance:
Headers and free breathing exhaust
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
Low restriction air intake
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
180 degree t stat.
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
Computer compatable cam change. We use the 207/213 voodoo ground on a 113 lobe sep. This will pass Ca emissions. Factory double roller timing set is not retarded.
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
Port factory intake which will increase flow significantly
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
Budget ported cylinder heads with 2.11" intakes and std exhaust as well as better valve springs and topping the guides. The EFI castings have good exhaust ports and somewhat limited intakes especially the E7TE castings.
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
Deck heads .030" to get static c/r up to 9 to 1 with the stock replacement efi pistons.
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
Adjustable fuel pressure regulator to allow richer WOT operation.
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
piggy back chip for the ecm for additional power via more agressive timing tables and greater injector pulse width. (optional)
Originally Posted by Mad Porter at 460ford.com
The above will net 100 RWHP.
The stock fuel pumps and injectors are limited to about 365 HP.
The stock fuel pumps and injectors are limited to about 365 HP.
If the changes net 100 RWHP, will this be enough (or too much.... like that's ever a problem though) to accomplish my goals in the first post? I don't have enough experience with different horsepower ranges to know what numbers I'm looking for; the higher horsepower vehicles I've been around have always been cars, which is a whole 'nother beast compared to what a truck needs.
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Bringing this thread back from the dead. It's been a busy last few months. Finishing up my work at the construction site in NW MN, moving home, getting married, moving to the next construction site (and stocking a house how a wife lives rather than a "bachelor"), and a few weeks of short term traveling work in the area so I've neglected my truck entirely for the last few months.
A little bit of reality has settled in and I'm sure I can't afford to upgrade to any type of aftermarket aluminum heads and convert the system to EFI, so I'll be sticking with the F3TE heads for sure (I'm looking for another set if anybody has some). Since I'm sticking with the EFI heads, I will utilize the stock intake manifold. I have the F3TE heads and manifold on my truck currently, but I'd like to get another set of heads for machine work and engine building since it's going to be a long term project. What I don't know, is there any difference between the '95 intake manifold on the F3TE heads and the '88 intake on the E7TE equipped block I'm going to rebuild?
A little bit of reality has settled in and I'm sure I can't afford to upgrade to any type of aftermarket aluminum heads and convert the system to EFI, so I'll be sticking with the F3TE heads for sure (I'm looking for another set if anybody has some). Since I'm sticking with the EFI heads, I will utilize the stock intake manifold. I have the F3TE heads and manifold on my truck currently, but I'd like to get another set of heads for machine work and engine building since it's going to be a long term project. What I don't know, is there any difference between the '95 intake manifold on the F3TE heads and the '88 intake on the E7TE equipped block I'm going to rebuild?
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