Pulling the engine without removing the front clip?
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Pulling the engine without removing the front clip?
1996 F250 2wd with a 460ci.
My question, is it possible to remove the engine without pulling the whole front end off with a standard 2 ton engine hoist? The engine has the exhaust manifolds, intake manifold, and heads already removed. The city will come down on me for a "junk vehicle" if I remove the clip (front+fenders) if they see it so I was wondering it is possible to do it without going that route. The transmission is already out so it will be just removing the block and oil pan. Looking for people who have done it or researched it if possible.
My question, is it possible to remove the engine without pulling the whole front end off with a standard 2 ton engine hoist? The engine has the exhaust manifolds, intake manifold, and heads already removed. The city will come down on me for a "junk vehicle" if I remove the clip (front+fenders) if they see it so I was wondering it is possible to do it without going that route. The transmission is already out so it will be just removing the block and oil pan. Looking for people who have done it or researched it if possible.
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I planned on pulling the front wheels off and putting the rotors on wood blocks if I can't find a place for the jack stands to rest on. Another idea was just to pull the front end off without removing the fenders but I've been told this isn't possible with Fords. The front of the truck is facing a garage so the "compliance patrol" wouldn't see anything if the fenders were in place.
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I never pulled the front clip off as in the past as we always had an overhead hoist. I might try the "take it off, remove engine, put it back in place" trick. I didn't think it could be set back in place without being held up with ropes and jackstands galore. Most of the engine compartment is stripped clean aside from the ac/heater motor and the brake master cylinder/vacuum booster.
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A lot of the folks doing this do pop off the front clip. I'm a few months away from doing it myself and have been poking around under the truck looking for all the stuff that needs to be undone to get it off- doesn't seem hard and I've seen people say they can take the clip off in 45 minutes and only need a friend (wife in some cases) to actually remove it from the frame since its kind of bulky, but of really heavy.
The same post suggested a noobie can get the clip off in 2 hours... If you do pop it off take some pics please- I'd love to see your progress.
The same post suggested a noobie can get the clip off in 2 hours... If you do pop it off take some pics please- I'd love to see your progress.
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I dropped a 460 into my F150 in place of the original 300 Six and I did not pull the front clip. I have never pulled the front clip for any engine removal. It goes in fine, you need to kind of turn it cockeyed a bit to clear everything going in. I used a roll-around engine hoist, not an overhead. I did take off the front tires and lower the front end on my lift so I would not have to jack the motor so far in the air.
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I remove the hood to get clearance, but have never had to remove the rad support with my 460 truck.
It can get hairy with the cherry picker that high if you don't have one with a wide stance.
It can get hairy with the cherry picker that high if you don't have one with a wide stance.
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I use a rolling cherry picker when I take motors out. I've got a short one and a really tall one for taking motors out of bigger trucks like my truck, 1 tons, ect. I usually take the hood off when I use my tall one and drop the motor straight in.
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I don't see this being a problem if you can get the hoist high enough, I got a nearly fully dressed 5.8 out of my truck without removing the hood or rad.. and it wasn't that much of a squeeze.
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OK, I thought it went without saying, but, yeah, I had the hood off of my truck for sure. Now, if you are squeamish about lifting the motor that high, you can just pull the core support out and leave the fenders and hood and then it's not nearly as high to lift the motor. I did this on my Bronco since I was fitting a non-standard motor and I wanted to be able to go in and out several times to check fitment - plus the 7.3 IDI weighs quite a bit more than the 460.
That might be the best compromise to appease your homeowner's assoc. and still not have to lift the motor way high.
That might be the best compromise to appease your homeowner's assoc. and still not have to lift the motor way high.
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I planned on pulling the hood off so that isnt an issue. More than likely the tires will come off, the rotors will be put on wood blocks or I will let the air out of the tires and I will go from there. If I wasn't working alone I would consider removing the front clip but that's hard to do alone. The 460 that is coming out is bare and more than likely I will put the rebuilt one in the same way and install the heads and such inside of the bay. Thanks for the advise