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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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temp sensors -40

so, I had my truck hooked up to a computer the other day and both the cold air intake sensor and the engine coolant sensor both read -40 and never changed. the air intake sensor is brand new. any ideas on where to start? I will be working today but will have sporadic internet access so ill check back from my phone. thanks
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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What computer (scanner) software did you use. The PCM does not monitor engine coolant so that is just a false reading. It does however monitor cold air intake.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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It was a snap on computer
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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It says intake sensor???
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hussler
The PCM does not monitor engine coolant...
How does my scangauge read coolant temperature?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckHammer
How does my scangauge read coolant temperature?
It doesn't, there is no physical wire from the coolant sensor to the PCM. PCM uses EOT for engine temp. The coolant sensor just goes to the dash meter. Scangauge wants to display something so it's displaying something else.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman67
It says intake sensor???
There were 2 readings, one said cold air intake temperature the other sAid engine coolant temp. They both read -40.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Yeah, no coolant temp sensor.

The PCM just guesses on that I think. Mine is always on par with my EOT for some reason. I took it off my scangauge though because I know its a false reading.

Air Intake Temperature, that sensor is on the fender drivers side. Usually in the airbox unless you have changed the filter to aftermarket.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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I have no experience with the Snap-On so I can't help. On 99+ trucks the PCM does monitor engine coolant sensor. On OBS trucks the PID is called IAT (intake air temp). I've never heard it called "cold air intake temp) but maybe that is what Snap-On calls it.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Ok, well regardless of what it's called, is there some reason it would read -40. I'm assuming that's a default reading, just not sure what could make it think it's so cold...
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hussler
It doesn't, there is no physical wire from the coolant sensor to the PCM. PCM uses EOT for engine temp. The coolant sensor just goes to the dash meter. Scangauge wants to display something so it's displaying something else.
Good to know. Thank you for the information.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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Ok, well regardless of what it's called, is there some reason it would read -40. I'm assuming that's a default reading, just not sure what could make it think it's so cold...
Don't know, more than likely the scanner. If it faults the scanner should read 57* F as that is the default.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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Don't know, more than likely the scanner. If it faults the scanner should read 57* F as that is the default.
That's wierd, cause before when there was no intake air sensor in there it was -40... Good to know and 57 makes way more sense for a default...
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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it could also be reading an unused input in the computer that is not linked into the harness.

-40 is common for a disconnected NTC sensor in computer speak.

Richard
 
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkStarMedia
it could also be reading an unused input in the computer that is not linked into the harness.

-40 is common for a disconnected NTC sensor in computer speak.

Richard
so, essentially my air intake sensor is "reading" as disconnected? so what would be the difference between a default reading and a disconnected reading. is it just how the computer is interpreting the data? im so confused... thanks for the replys.
 
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