About to throw in the towel
#61
We found the problem.
Timing marks aligned together, while the manual calls for them to be seven links apart (12 pins). Timing chain was reset and compression tested again. It's up at 110 where it should be after a rebuild.
We'll close up the engine and re-install everything that was removed today on Thursday. Hoping to fire it up on Friday or this weekend.
Timing marks aligned together, while the manual calls for them to be seven links apart (12 pins). Timing chain was reset and compression tested again. It's up at 110 where it should be after a rebuild.
We'll close up the engine and re-install everything that was removed today on Thursday. Hoping to fire it up on Friday or this weekend.
#62
6 cylinder timing
Ilya,
I'm so happy you found the problem with the engine after all the headaches. I have been wondering for the last week how it was coming. It is like watching a tv program that was continued.
Happpy driving!!
Now possibly you will have time to police up the parts we have been going back and forth about over the last few months.
TractormanBill
I'm so happy you found the problem with the engine after all the headaches. I have been wondering for the last week how it was coming. It is like watching a tv program that was continued.
Happpy driving!!
Now possibly you will have time to police up the parts we have been going back and forth about over the last few months.
TractormanBill
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We found the problem.
Timing marks aligned together, while the manual calls for them to be seven teeth apart. Timing chain was reset and compression tested again. It's up at 110 where it should be after a rebuild.
We'll close up the engine and re-install everything that was removed on Thursday. Hoping to fire it up on Friday or this weekend.
Timing marks aligned together, while the manual calls for them to be seven teeth apart. Timing chain was reset and compression tested again. It's up at 110 where it should be after a rebuild.
We'll close up the engine and re-install everything that was removed on Thursday. Hoping to fire it up on Friday or this weekend.
I feel a cross between work and play...I think I need to find a councelor...I don't like it.
On a positive note glad you figured it out!
Another classic case of...if you want to done right, do it yourself.
That's just my excuse for not being able to pay anyone to do anything for me..
Hang in there by the towel tag Ilya! You are almost there buddy!
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#71
6 cylinder
Ben, get your glasses and you can see a small circle on the top gear that the builder ligned up with the circle on the lower gear which lots of engines use this method.
I'm looking in my 49-51 repair manual and it shows an H & M series 6 cylinder engines that were used,
Both of them have the crank and cam bear meshed with no chain. Of course the marks on them line up like the engine builder tired to assemble yours with the marks together.
What 6 cyl. used the chain?
TractormanBill
I'm looking in my 49-51 repair manual and it shows an H & M series 6 cylinder engines that were used,
Both of them have the crank and cam bear meshed with no chain. Of course the marks on them line up like the engine builder tired to assemble yours with the marks together.
What 6 cyl. used the chain?
TractormanBill
#72
Ben,
A camshaft has to be in coordinated time with the crankshaft rotation so the valves open and close at the proper time compared to their piston position. The cam usually is designed to turn at 1/2 the crankshaft speed. To drive the camshaft and keep it in proper time a timing chain or toothed belt or gears are used.
To orient the cam drive at the proper relationship some sort of marker is used. If you look closely at the picture above you will see a "o" stamped on the crank gear and the cam gear (harder to see on the cam gear, look on the tooth below the "e" in link belt)
On most engines the two marks are aligned with each other when the cam gear is bolted in place to set the timing. I suspect Ford in his famous frugality (read CHEAP!) decided to use a gear already in inventory from and marked for another engine on this motor. To properly time this engine the timing marks must be offset by 7 teeth. If you don't carefully read the manual, most mechanics would set the marks in alignment, as done on almost all other engines.
Two lessons to be learned: 1. Always read the directions, no matter how many times you've done something before. 2. Ford often bucked the system to use parts already in inventory to save money.
A camshaft has to be in coordinated time with the crankshaft rotation so the valves open and close at the proper time compared to their piston position. The cam usually is designed to turn at 1/2 the crankshaft speed. To drive the camshaft and keep it in proper time a timing chain or toothed belt or gears are used.
To orient the cam drive at the proper relationship some sort of marker is used. If you look closely at the picture above you will see a "o" stamped on the crank gear and the cam gear (harder to see on the cam gear, look on the tooth below the "e" in link belt)
On most engines the two marks are aligned with each other when the cam gear is bolted in place to set the timing. I suspect Ford in his famous frugality (read CHEAP!) decided to use a gear already in inventory from and marked for another engine on this motor. To properly time this engine the timing marks must be offset by 7 teeth. If you don't carefully read the manual, most mechanics would set the marks in alignment, as done on almost all other engines.
Two lessons to be learned: 1. Always read the directions, no matter how many times you've done something before. 2. Ford often bucked the system to use parts already in inventory to save money.
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6 cylinder
Still do not have an answer to the 6 cyl. question as to which one used a chain on the timing gears?
I'm looking in my 49-51 repair manual and it shows an H & M series 6 cylinder engines that were used and both have the gears meshing with no chain.
By the way I do not have a 6 cyl. in my truck but am just interested.
TractormanBill
I'm looking in my 49-51 repair manual and it shows an H & M series 6 cylinder engines that were used and both have the gears meshing with no chain.
By the way I do not have a 6 cyl. in my truck but am just interested.
TractormanBill