X brake upgrade
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I'm using Hawk LTS brake pads front and rear along with Napa Ultra Premium rotors. Stops great, no noise and very little dusting. A step up would be the Hawk Superduty pads which have a bit more bite and stopping power but can dust more and make a little bit of noise. Those may be the ticket with the amount of weight you are adding with those wheels and tires.
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first and foremost youll need to change your brake fluid....get a set of stainless braided brake lines to take all the give from the lines out and then put on some powerslot or art cryo frozen rotors up front and either carbon/metallic perfomance friction pads or stop tech pads....for the rears if you want to spend the money get the cryo's also but if not a set of ebc rotors are nice with a decent hawk pad will suffice.....after you get all that put on make sure and bed the brakes in properly....youll be amazed at the difference especially if you tow....the stop tech pads grab more the hotter they get...have those on the EX and the carbon/metallic performance friction pads on my truck work extremely well also....dont be cheap about it you wont regret it.....
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Check out this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-calipers.html
I might look into these also ART Ford Cyro-Treated, Gas-Ported Rotors with Performance Friction Brake Pads but are pricey...and I guess for the calipers, they'll be coming out with a set for the rear later on as well
I might look into these also ART Ford Cyro-Treated, Gas-Ported Rotors with Performance Friction Brake Pads but are pricey...and I guess for the calipers, they'll be coming out with a set for the rear later on as well
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I have been looking for a true brake upgrade for a while. I am totally confused on why there are no kits to increase rotor diameter or size of the caliper. Just replacement OEM stuff that makes promises, to just be better. I don't need stuff that will last longer than stock. I need stuff that lowers the stopping distance while braking. I did find these calipers from EGR Performance Brakes that promise 35% more torque and brake power (whatever that means)but they are the stock size also. Has anybody heard of these guys?
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I have been looking for a true brake upgrade for a while. I am totally confused on why there are no kits to increase rotor diameter or size of the caliper. Just replacement OEM stuff that makes promises, to just be better. I don't need stuff that will last longer than stock. I need stuff that lowers the stopping distance while braking. I did find these calipers from EGR Performance Brakes that promise 35% more torque and brake power (whatever that means)but they are the stock size also. Has anybody heard of these guys?
BIG BRAKE 8-PISTON CALIPER UPGRADE KIT FORD Excursion, F250 &...
EGR Performance Brakes, brakes for Dodge, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Tahoe, Yukon, Excursion, Dakota, Durango or whatever you drive.
BIG BRAKE 8-PISTON CALIPER UPGRADE KIT FORD Excursion, F250 &...
EGR Performance Brakes, brakes for Dodge, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Tahoe, Yukon, Excursion, Dakota, Durango or whatever you drive.
If you want BIG brakes, then check these guys out.
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Their rep here on the forum is Todd TCE Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Profile: Todd TCE if you want to PM him. In the past he has offered some discounts for forum members, like here. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...l#post15847941
If you drop the 5 grand and do this we WILL REQUIRE pictures of the entire project!
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Those kits look great but I have the same wheels as you 18inch rims and those kits require 20 inch rims. My wheels and tires are fairly new. Without checking I thought 18 inch rims would be plenty big enough for a bigger brake kit. Seeing those kits need 20's is a big surprise to me. My truck had 16's to begin with. Its seems I really screwed up the planning phase. Epic fail.
Those kits look great but I have the same wheels as you 18inch rims and those kits require 20 inch rims. My wheels and tires are fairly new. Without checking I thought 18 inch rims would be plenty big enough for a bigger brake kit. Seeing those kits need 20's is a big surprise to me. My truck had 16's to begin with. Its seems I really screwed up the planning phase. Epic fail.
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Those kits look great but I have the same wheels as you 18inch rims and those kits require 20 inch rims. My wheels and tires are fairly new. Without checking I thought 18 inch rims would be plenty big enough for a bigger brake kit. Seeing those kits need 20's is a big surprise to me. My truck had 16's to begin with. Its seems I really screwed up the planning phase. Epic fail.
Those kits look great but I have the same wheels as you 18inch rims and those kits require 20 inch rims. My wheels and tires are fairly new. Without checking I thought 18 inch rims would be plenty big enough for a bigger brake kit. Seeing those kits need 20's is a big surprise to me. My truck had 16's to begin with. Its seems I really screwed up the planning phase. Epic fail.
Reach out to the guys using the 8 piston calipers and quality rotors and pads to see how they think the performance is with that option.
Maybe it's just that I have driven so many crappy vehicles over the years but I think that my EX with 35"s stops just fine with it's stock setup, it's obviously not a sports car (and never will be) but for an 8k SUV it stops well. My front bumper is still straight.
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First of all Thank you for the information. Places like this with knowlegable people are worth everything. After I saw your rig with your setup I got the F250 springs and wheels and tires within a year. I can also park my rig in the garage with 1/4 in to spare on the roof.
Agreed. I think it stops just fine. But I live in the Fort Worth area and with rush hour traffic panic stops happen a lot. Daily in fact. I just worry its only a matter of time before I just run out of room. I also have a 33 foot camper with two slide outs. Better brakes is just something I always look for. And needing 20" rims to be able to use the willwoods seems self defeating. The bigger and heavier wheels and tires increase stopping distance a lot. So the brake kit is needed to get the stopping distance back to the stock level.
I have options. I will add the braded brake lines, replace the fluid and upgrade the calipers to ssbc. I might even go with the frozenrotor.com option. When all this happens I will do a 60-0 braking measurement before the changes and after. I plan on keeping My excursion forever so putting a little extra into it just makes good sense. Thanks again!
Agreed. I think it stops just fine. But I live in the Fort Worth area and with rush hour traffic panic stops happen a lot. Daily in fact. I just worry its only a matter of time before I just run out of room. I also have a 33 foot camper with two slide outs. Better brakes is just something I always look for. And needing 20" rims to be able to use the willwoods seems self defeating. The bigger and heavier wheels and tires increase stopping distance a lot. So the brake kit is needed to get the stopping distance back to the stock level.
I have options. I will add the braded brake lines, replace the fluid and upgrade the calipers to ssbc. I might even go with the frozenrotor.com option. When all this happens I will do a 60-0 braking measurement before the changes and after. I plan on keeping My excursion forever so putting a little extra into it just makes good sense. Thanks again!
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Thanks for the kind words! 
Posting before and after stopping distances would be awesome!
I think a good flush, new stainless hoses and new high quality brake pads and rotors should shorten that distance a little bit.
That high dollar big brake kit would most likely still be a decent upgrade in stopping power even with the bigger 20" rolling stock. Just not sure if it would be $5000 better though.
Posting before and after stopping distances would be awesome!
I think a good flush, new stainless hoses and new high quality brake pads and rotors should shorten that distance a little bit.
That high dollar big brake kit would most likely still be a decent upgrade in stopping power even with the bigger 20" rolling stock. Just not sure if it would be $5000 better though.
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I have the same opinion. When I had the usual high mileage issues (fluid needed changing, lines needed replacing and one time a stuck caliper) braking would be noticeably bad but once repaired even with a 1.5 ton non-braked trailer I didn't have a problem stopping.
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Need, no. How do we know what you can afford? That's like asking how I can make my rig faster and then when someone says "Get a tuner" me responding with "You don't think I should swap my 6.8 for a 6.0?" We kind of need to know your limitations lol