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Old May 7, 2003 | 02:01 AM
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well as stated I've just found this site and I hope you all can help me out. I have a background in building race cars of a different breed (german) so when it comes to the domestics I can get a little lost. I picked up a project car from an old freind who passed away -69' ranchero with a 351W- stock for the most part and one owner, so its in good shape. I have recently aquired a built 460 from my uncle who used to work for Ford, it's a 71' casting from a lincoln with a double pumper holly 4-barrel. the compresion is high so I can't go with the usual FI setup unless I want to re-build it.
in any case i'll move on, I plan on swaping it into the ranchero however the engine is not completly assy. the accesories are not on and all the nice new shiny brackets are in a box. I haven't a clue as to what goes where and haven't been able to find any diagrams for it either. does anyone know where i can fine a pic. or a place to take some pics of one assy?
the engine also has a C-6 trans with it, so I have to just figure a way to convert the car accept the new BB, different engine mounts and trans, most likley a shortend drive shaft.
Ohh and while i can remember how can I tell what shaft works on what car? the spline count has me confused. I come from a land of drive shafts that run a center flex disk and giubos at either end, pretty much a 3-flanged tounge that is 60' off of the other one and bolted to a metal plate.
it's interesting to see the differences in engineering between the two.
sorry for the long post, I have alot of questions, next is the vacum diagram...
thanks for the help
 
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Old May 7, 2003 | 05:06 AM
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You may have better luck posting in the Ranchero section. As I remember there were a few 70-71 Rancheros built with 429 engines in them so parts and pieces should still be available in wrecking yards or auto parts stores. About 9-10 years ago I even saw a 71 Ranchero with a 429 CJ 4-spd. and shaker-hood at a car-show/swap meet...that was one rare bird! Good luck, Deen
 
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Old May 7, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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well man, glad to have ya here. good new and bad news....bad news is the c6 behind a 351 windsor will not work on a 460. so you will need a different one. but the accessories for factory stuff arent too bad. lemme see how good my memory is with this considering i saw no less than three 70-78 460s in the yard today while i was grabbin parts. the alternator is the only thing on the passenger side of the block(as far as cars go anyway) and the power steering is on the drivers side closest to the motor and the a/c compressor is on the right side of it. there should be a big monster bracket that mounts to the drivers side first, then a large plate that attaches to that. as for the passenger side, there are two brackets, one curved one that goes on the bottom, thats the one for adjustment, and the other one goes on the right side of it and connects to the top. if its aftermarket who knows. and for the life of me i cant find the pics i took in a boneyard cuz i couldnt remember where everything went myself the first time. but as far as gettin it in there it should be similar to a fairlane or galaxy of that year, maybe torino...cant remember what they built the ranchero like that year, i know in 70 it was the torino....ah shoot. but good luck and hope this helps
mike
 
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Old May 8, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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mike460, thanks.
yes it is built on the Torino body 70' model sold in the end of 69'. the new 460 has the C-6 I plan on using a different drive shaft or shortining the one I have. the A/C currently on the car sits on top of the engine, its a very large compressor, not sure if I'm going to keep the A/C though.
onto Ignition, is the Duraspark good enough to keep in the application street/strip or should I move onto a MSD setup ie. 6AL box and BIllet distributer? and is spark scatter a concern with the distributer drive to the point of needing the crank trigger system?
once again thanks for the help.
to show you the leap in technology, my current race car uses a crank trigger, TDC reference sensor and two additional sensors for camshaft position one each for exhaust and intake (allows the softeware to adjust timing/power band as I see fit), along with the slew of individual knock sensors and temp/pressure ones. the nthe chassis ones get even more complicated-whew! it's nice to have another toy that doesn't demand such time and complexity.
 
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