Serpentine belt squeeling
Serpentine belt squeeling
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Serpentine belt squeeling
I have a '98 3.0 Ranger, 57K mi., and I know you talked about belts in an earlier thread, but I didn't really get an answer to my specific question, so here it is: About two weeks ago, the serpentine belt started squeeling, originally only in cold and would normally go away. But now it is all the time. I have bought both "Belt Dressing" and "Silicon Spray", to try and help the problem. When I spray it on the belt while it is running it will instantly go quiet, but only for a short time, sometimes only a mile or so. It is a new belt 8 months ago, and does not show any signs of misalignment or improper installation. I don't know what to replace first, belt, pulley, or tensioner? Has anyone had this problem, or can you please help? Thanks
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Serpentine belt squeeling
Read the can of belt dressing.. its for v-belts only.
silicon spray is a lube.. it wont help squealing it just makes it stop for a bit cuz its slipping EASIER.
I would just replace the belt and if your pullies are crapped up clean those up good too.
Its also possible you have a bad belt tensioner.. but thats unlikely being a 98.
Rand
silicon spray is a lube.. it wont help squealing it just makes it stop for a bit cuz its slipping EASIER.
I would just replace the belt and if your pullies are crapped up clean those up good too.
Its also possible you have a bad belt tensioner.. but thats unlikely being a 98.
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Serpentine belt squeeling
On my 98, I could see that the tensioner pulley was out of alignment. It looked as though someone had put too short of a belt in, and it pulled the tensioner too far, but they ran it like that anyway. Even when I tried a larger belt, the tensioner had been damaged, and it ran out of line. I could tell by where the belt was running on the pulley. It was far out on the pulley compared to the other idle pulley.
I replaced the tensioner assembly (pulley and all) as well as the belt. Back in line, no more squeal since (wet, dry, hot, cold, or otherwise).
I replaced the tensioner assembly (pulley and all) as well as the belt. Back in line, no more squeal since (wet, dry, hot, cold, or otherwise).
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I agree with PSKSAM2. I had the same problem and same solution. Remember folks, the stock belt only fits stock pulleys. If you change pulleys you will probably need a longer a belt.
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Quick fix could be removing the belt and turning it around. I havn't did this on a ranger but it did work on a aerostar.
This aerostar had a squealing belt. It was a new belt a few months old. Nothing would stop it. Belt dressing, wd-40 or replacing the idler and tensioner pulleys. Someone at work said take it off and turn it around. It has been 2 years now and it hasn't made a sound since.
Might be worth a try. If you try this and it works let us know. I had never heard of this before but it seemed to work on this one. I know I would try it again first if I encounter this problem again.
This aerostar had a squealing belt. It was a new belt a few months old. Nothing would stop it. Belt dressing, wd-40 or replacing the idler and tensioner pulleys. Someone at work said take it off and turn it around. It has been 2 years now and it hasn't made a sound since.
Might be worth a try. If you try this and it works let us know. I had never heard of this before but it seemed to work on this one. I know I would try it again first if I encounter this problem again.
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My 98 Ranger(3.0) does this when there is any type of moisture or rain. I use baby powder, give it a couple puffs and it stops all day. I put it on right by the alternator. Its a crazy home remedy, but it works. Just like taking moisture away from a baby's bottom, that's what baby powder does. try it.
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Serpentine belt squeeling
Originally posted by Yarls24
My 98 Ranger(3.0) does this when there is any type of moisture or rain. I use baby powder, give it a couple puffs and it stops all day. I put it on right by the alternator. Its a crazy home remedy, but it works. Just like taking moisture away from a baby's bottom, that's what baby powder does. try it.
My 98 Ranger(3.0) does this when there is any type of moisture or rain. I use baby powder, give it a couple puffs and it stops all day. I put it on right by the alternator. Its a crazy home remedy, but it works. Just like taking moisture away from a baby's bottom, that's what baby powder does. try it.
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From: on the creekbank in NC
Serpentine belt squeeling
Does anyone else here thing that flipping the belt sounds like a recipe for disaster?Without the grooves facing the pulley you are seriously decreasing the amount of surface tension on hte belt. How can that thing stay on? Or is that just me?
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saint,
I don't think he meant flip it inside out. He meant turn the belt around so what used to be the front edge of the belt is now the rear edge. The grooves stay inside facing the pulleys. Get it?
I had to think about it for a moment, too.
I don't think he meant flip it inside out. He meant turn the belt around so what used to be the front edge of the belt is now the rear edge. The grooves stay inside facing the pulleys. Get it?
I had to think about it for a moment, too.
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Serpentine belt squeeling
NEVER put belt dressings, silicone spray, WD40, or any other lubricant on a serpentine belt! The belt works by FRICTION between the belt and the mating pulley. If the belt is making noise find out why! Misaligned or damaged pulleys with a polished glaze from a slipping belt need to be repaired and or replaced and the belt must be replaced.
p.s. Talcum powder is a lubricant and is also a NO NO!
p.s. Talcum powder is a lubricant and is also a NO NO!
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Serpentine belt squeeling
OH!!!
I got it. I've never heard of doing that. I wonder what would cause that to have an effect? Give me the tools. LOL. I am going to have to go and look at that just to see. Thanks Rock.
I got it. I've never heard of doing that. I wonder what would cause that to have an effect? Give me the tools. LOL. I am going to have to go and look at that just to see. Thanks Rock.
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That is what I meant. To turn it around so front edge is now rear edge and not inside out. Sorry if it caused any confusion. I don't know what would cause it to have an effect but it did work after nothing else seemed to(replacing idler and tensioner pulleys and determining it wasn't from any other bearings on any of the other pulleys). I had never heard of it either up until the point I tried it and havn't heard of it since. Maybe it was just a coincidence. Who knows. I just wish I would have tried it first.
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From: utica n.y., u.s.a.
Serpentine belt squeeling
go to the local wal mart or just about any store...or even maybe youre desk drawer...and get out a piece of chalk..like you would use for a chalkboard...have the engine running and the hood open and just hold the chalk in 1 spot but move it front to back slightly... this should quiet it right down...
i had to do it on my new 92 1nce and then 1nce more the next day but ive put about 150 miles on it since the 2nd time i hit mine w/the chalk and it is as quiet as can be
good luck to all
i had to do it on my new 92 1nce and then 1nce more the next day but ive put about 150 miles on it since the 2nd time i hit mine w/the chalk and it is as quiet as can be
good luck to all