Ford & Cummins
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Ford & Cummins
I friend told me this morning, that Ford and Cummins were marrying up.
Dodge would have to use something else.
Personally, I find this hard to believe, but has anyone else heard of this?
Didn't Ford own a hunk of Cummins once?
Dodge would have to use something else.
Personally, I find this hard to believe, but has anyone else heard of this?
Didn't Ford own a hunk of Cummins once?
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Last I heard,
Ford was a major share holder at one time but has since sold most of their stock (about 3-5 years ago...). They still have a minor stake in the Cummins brand I believe....
According to our local fleet sales rep, the only diesel engine available in the entire Ford line is the 6.7 liter. For the light and med duty trucks (F250-550), it's the Ford 6.7 Powerstroke. For the heavy duty (F650-750) it's the Cummins. However, the Cummins 6.7 is available in 5 different power levels.
Ford was a major share holder at one time but has since sold most of their stock (about 3-5 years ago...). They still have a minor stake in the Cummins brand I believe....
According to our local fleet sales rep, the only diesel engine available in the entire Ford line is the 6.7 liter. For the light and med duty trucks (F250-550), it's the Ford 6.7 Powerstroke. For the heavy duty (F650-750) it's the Cummins. However, the Cummins 6.7 is available in 5 different power levels.
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Ford just spent $600,000,000 developing their own in house diesel engine (the 6.7). I am doubtful there is any "marriage" pending with any other manufacturer.
Ford was never a major stakeholder in Cummins although they once owned about 3% of Cummins publicly traded stock, which they divested entirely of in 1997.
Ford was never a major stakeholder in Cummins although they once owned about 3% of Cummins publicly traded stock, which they divested entirely of in 1997.
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I stand corrected the last cat was a 09 C7 300hp.
It now a cummins are a 6.8 v10
Starting with the 2010 model year, only one diesel option was available due to Caterpillar's current absence in the OTR market. The 6.7 L Cummins B Series engine(ISB) I-6 diesel comes with 8 standard and optional ratings, and two vocational ratings.[2] Ford has announced that for the 2012 model year there will be gasoline and compressed natural gas options available for the F-650. The 6.8 L Ford Modular engine V-10 produces 362*hp and 457*ft·lbs of torque and will be mated to Fords new 6R140 6-speed automatic transmission.[3]
It now a cummins are a 6.8 v10
Starting with the 2010 model year, only one diesel option was available due to Caterpillar's current absence in the OTR market. The 6.7 L Cummins B Series engine(ISB) I-6 diesel comes with 8 standard and optional ratings, and two vocational ratings.[2] Ford has announced that for the 2012 model year there will be gasoline and compressed natural gas options available for the F-650. The 6.8 L Ford Modular engine V-10 produces 362*hp and 457*ft·lbs of torque and will be mated to Fords new 6R140 6-speed automatic transmission.[3]
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Is that special order? Our brochure only shows the Cummins ISB or V10 as options. Transmission choices are Automatic (Allison) or manual (Fuller).
The F-53 and F-59 chassis look like gas engines only...
2012 Ford F-650/F-750 Work Trucks | View F-650/F-750 Features | Ford.com
EDIT: I see your second reply....thanks for the clarifying info.
The F-53 and F-59 chassis look like gas engines only...
2012 Ford F-650/F-750 Work Trucks | View F-650/F-750 Features | Ford.com
EDIT: I see your second reply....thanks for the clarifying info.
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Engine[4] Displacement[4] Bore x Stroke[4] Horsepower
@ rpm Torque
@ rpm Governed
Speed
6.7L Cummins ISB 409 CID
6702*cc 4.21 in × 4.88 in
(107*mm × 124*mm) 200 @ 2300 520*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
220 @ 2300 520*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
240 @ 2300 560*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
250 @ 2300 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
260 @ 2300 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
280 @ 2300 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
300 @ 2600 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
325 @ 2600 750*ft·lbs @ 1800 2600 rpm
340 @ 2600 660*ft·lbs @ 1800 2600 rpm
360 @ 2600 800*ft·lbs @ 1800 2600 rpm
6.8L Ford Modular engine 413 CID
6760cc 3.552 in x 4.165 in
(90.2*mm x 105.8*mm) 362 @ 4750 457*ft·lbs @ 3250 5500 rpm
@ rpm Torque
@ rpm Governed
Speed
6.7L Cummins ISB 409 CID
6702*cc 4.21 in × 4.88 in
(107*mm × 124*mm) 200 @ 2300 520*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
220 @ 2300 520*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
240 @ 2300 560*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
250 @ 2300 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
260 @ 2300 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
280 @ 2300 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
300 @ 2600 660*ft·lbs @ 1600 2600 rpm
325 @ 2600 750*ft·lbs @ 1800 2600 rpm
340 @ 2600 660*ft·lbs @ 1800 2600 rpm
360 @ 2600 800*ft·lbs @ 1800 2600 rpm
6.8L Ford Modular engine 413 CID
6760cc 3.552 in x 4.165 in
(90.2*mm x 105.8*mm) 362 @ 4750 457*ft·lbs @ 3250 5500 rpm
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I own a lawn and landscaping company. I sunk my truck two weeks ago with a 25' gooseneck and a bobcat T190 with a spade and two pallets off grass and had to get a peterbilt to pull me out. Not a fun day.
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Back to topic I've heard ford owned a few shares but I can not confirm this but I have emailed Ford this question and the answer was that cummins was an engine supplier for Ford
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Haha I still had it saved
Thank you for contacting the Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center regarding with your follow email.
In an effort to assist your, we have researched available information for your inquiry. Our records indicate that Ford does not own any portion of Cummins Inc., therefore, Ford no longer has any direct financial connections with Cummins. However, Ford still purchases some Cummins engines and are considered a very good Cummins customer.
We consider the satisfaction of our customers one of our most important objectives. If you have any other inquiries or concerns, please feel free to contact us and we will be happy to address them for you.
Sincerely,
Gamaliel*
Customer Relationship Center*
Ford Motor Company
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Thank you for contacting the Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center regarding with your follow email.
In an effort to assist your, we have researched available information for your inquiry. Our records indicate that Ford does not own any portion of Cummins Inc., therefore, Ford no longer has any direct financial connections with Cummins. However, Ford still purchases some Cummins engines and are considered a very good Cummins customer.
We consider the satisfaction of our customers one of our most important objectives. If you have any other inquiries or concerns, please feel free to contact us and we will be happy to address them for you.
Sincerely,
Gamaliel*
Customer Relationship Center*
Ford Motor Company
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Cat no longer sells engines for on road trucks, except as a replacement.
They have come out with a Vocational Truck with the "CAT" badge, but it is a Navistar, with a Navistar engine built for Cat.
The Auto transmission is a Cat Built.
This is the last I heard. I tend to agree with Klux though.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...VTaE8LCUekVMJg
They have come out with a Vocational Truck with the "CAT" badge, but it is a Navistar, with a Navistar engine built for Cat.
The Auto transmission is a Cat Built.
This is the last I heard. I tend to agree with Klux though.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...VTaE8LCUekVMJg