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I Need to replace the oil pump on my 1969 f100 Ford. It has a 360 V8 and I cain't see how I can get the oil pan off without raising the engine up about four inches so I can remove the old pump and let it fall into the oil pan. This seems rather extreme. Is there someone out there that knows a secret? Help
Need to replace the oil pump on my 1969 f100 Ford. It has a 360 V8 and I cain't see how I can get the oil pan off without raising the engine up about four inches so I can remove the old pump and let it fall into the oil pan. This seems rather extreme. Is there someone out there that knows a secret? Help
thats the secret. Get a jack and a block of wood, remove the nuts on the motor mounts and jack up the engine via the crank... Place blocks of wood between the mounts and the frame to ensure the engine won't come back down. Unbolt the pan, stick your hands in the pan gap (won't come off cuz of the pickup tube) and remove the two bolts holding on the pump. Clean the pan and reverse the process. Be sure to get the pump gasket on correctly too, the old engines really clatter when the oil dosen't make it up to pressure... (and it really sucks to have to do this twice ) Also, if you have an old dizzy (rip it apart for the shaft- junk engines are good for something) or a pump priming shaft it is a good idea to prime the pump with a drill to ensure you get oil to the engine.
There is no secret here. You do have to raise the engine. Remove the motor supports on both sides. Be sure that nothing gets damagedd when the engine is raised. You may have to disconnect some lines and cables. Place a wooden block between the jack and oil pan. Raise the engine as high as you can and place blocks between the engine and frame. Let the engine down on the blocks. Be sure that they are stable. Then, remove the oil pan and oil pump.
There is not an easy way to do this. getting to the 2 pump bolts is also a lesson in frustration, as most everything, including your hands, will probably be well lubricated.
Just give yourself some time. Make sure to put the retainer back on the pump shaft. This is what keeps it in place when the dizzy goes in or out. It's no fun to drop it in the pan and have to remove the oil pan... again. (personal experience)
PDM,
One little trick I picked up after doing this a couple of times. When you're ready to reinstall the oil pan, run a bead of RTV over
the lip of the pan and set your oil pan gasket in place (on the oil pan). Then, take a ball of string and cut about 12 lengths of string (each about 3 inches long). Run thread through every-other bolt hole (in the pan) and through the bolt hole in the oil pan gasket and tie each string off. These will hold the gasket in place on the pan while you wiggle it up under the engine, and while you reach into the pan to re-bolt the oil pump pickup tube. Start a couple of the oil pan bolts, and then clip the strings as you go (and pull them out with needlenose pliers if need be).
The whole oilpump replacement isn't as onerous as you might think. Good luck.
Ohio Bill
1972 F100 360 4v 4 speed
1968 Torino GT 429 4v 5 speed
I like to use a few dabs of "yellow death" weatherstrip adhesive to hold the pan gasket to the pan. Start one of the pickup tube bolts (don't forget the gasket) before the pan is all the way under and pivot the pickup to get the pan in position. That way you only have to chase around one loose bolt in the hole wher you can't see and can just barely reach.
I removed the motor mount bolt on the drivers side..used a hydralic jack and a 2 X 4 long enough to reach from the jack to the exhaust manifold. Put the 2 X 4 in place and raised the engine about 2 in. up. Placed the oil pump in the oil pan with the sump tube attached. Slid the pan under the engine from the front, pushed it to the right (facing the engine) reached into the oil pan with my left hand and lifted the pump up to the block, held it there with two fingers while I used my right hand to insert the 1st bolt and get it started. Then use an open end wrench to snug the bolt up to the block (not tight) then just adjust the pump so the 2nd bolt will start and then tighten both bols, lower the engine and replace the motor mount bolt and there you have it. This whole process took me about 15 minutes. (If you should drop one of the bolts, just used a flexible magnet to fish it out of the pan)
I used Ohio Bill's tip about using string to hold the gasket in place and that worked great..Thanks Ohio Bill... and thanks to all others who posted on this thread...Maybe I can help you guys sometime.