Fuel Additive
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Fuel Additive
I am using Diesel Kleen (gray bottle).
Adding it in a tank full at about every 1000 miles (20oz).
Are there a lot of you using an additive?
If you are then what kind and how often. Is it necessary to use an additive?
Thanks for your response.
Adding it in a tank full at about every 1000 miles (20oz).
Are there a lot of you using an additive?
If you are then what kind and how often. Is it necessary to use an additive?
Thanks for your response.
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I used Power Service additives in both my 6.4L and 6.7L trucks. The primary reasons were for the lubricity increase as well as the cetane booster. Low lubricity fuel can cause over $10,000 in damage to your fuel system if it causes your high pressure fuel pump to fail, so I think a couple bucks per tank of additive is some cheap insurance.
I highly recommend a quality additive every tank so you know that your fuel is treated for lubricity rather than having to rely on the fuel suppliers.
I highly recommend a quality additive every tank so you know that your fuel is treated for lubricity rather than having to rely on the fuel suppliers.
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Yes..... I'm thinking about adding it with every tank as well.
I wish the Power Service Additive came in like 16oz bottles so I could just buy a case and then I could drop in a bottle with a tank fill instead of having to measure it and use a funnel to get it in the tank.
Will have to research this a little bit more.
I wish the Power Service Additive came in like 16oz bottles so I could just buy a case and then I could drop in a bottle with a tank fill instead of having to measure it and use a funnel to get it in the tank.
Will have to research this a little bit more.
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Go to a Ford dealer and buy a 20 oz, bottle of PM22a and when you are finished with it you can refill it with your favorite brand. It fits in your rear door compartment for convenience, also like to mention that PM22a when bought in 1 gallon cans will treat 1,000 gal. of fuel for about $44
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Yes..... I'm thinking about adding it with every tank as well.
I wish the Power Service Additive came in like 16oz bottles so I could just buy a case and then I could drop in a bottle with a tank fill instead of having to measure it and use a funnel to get it in the tank.
Will have to research this a little bit more.
I wish the Power Service Additive came in like 16oz bottles so I could just buy a case and then I could drop in a bottle with a tank fill instead of having to measure it and use a funnel to get it in the tank.
Will have to research this a little bit more.
Both my trucks were SRW CC short bed trucks, and only took ~22-24 gallons at a fillup. I used 8 oz every tank.
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I have a short bed truck with the 30 gallon tank.
Power Service Diesel Kleen's regular treatment dosage is 1oz per 3 gallons....= 10 oz of product for a 30 gallon tank.
But it also says on the jug..."For maximum centaine boost and quicker fuel injector clean up, add two times the amount of additive listed below"..... So that would be about 20oz for a 30 gallon tank....if you wanted to go maximum.
Since I've been adding the additive about every 1000 miles I have been going the max dosage.
If I were to start treating every tank I think I would cut back dosage to 10-16 oz per tank.....hence...a 16oz bottle.
Anyway...I don't have the big 38 gal tank like on a long bed truck.
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10 oz every tank. I just buy the 80 oz jugs and it has lines every 20oz on the side so its easy to get to 10oz +/- every tank. (I usually run 1 tank without every time I kill a jug, so every 8 tanks, just so I don't start building up a concentration of just DieselKleen).
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been looking at this myself today and came across this study,
http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fu...itive_test.pdf
has anyone tried the Opti-Lube XPD? My dad told me about another additive called Ten35 or Filtakleen, anyone have experience with that?
http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fu...itive_test.pdf
has anyone tried the Opti-Lube XPD? My dad told me about another additive called Ten35 or Filtakleen, anyone have experience with that?
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Very interesting study.
Wondering how accurate it is.
According to this study.... The Power Service Diesel Kleen ain't worth a hoot as there are at least 8 products that are more than twice as effective for increasing lubricating.
Wondering how accurate it is.
According to this study.... The Power Service Diesel Kleen ain't worth a hoot as there are at least 8 products that are more than twice as effective for increasing lubricating.
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been looking at this myself today and came across this study,
http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fu...itive_test.pdf
has anyone tried the Opti-Lube XPD? My dad told me about another additive called Ten35 or Filtakleen, anyone have experience with that?
http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fu...itive_test.pdf
has anyone tried the Opti-Lube XPD? My dad told me about another additive called Ten35 or Filtakleen, anyone have experience with that?
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Originally Posted by Power Service rep
Mr. Bowen:
It was a pleasure speaking with you earlier today. I will briefly summarize what we discussed.
Diesel Kleen and Diesel Fuel Supplement are demulsifier/solubilizers. This means that they will not allow the fuel to carry any more water than it naturally would, and they will demulsify excess water. Neither of these products will emulsify free water droplets into the fuel. Diesel fuel typically carries 50-100 ppm water naturally. Biodiesel can carry 10x the amount of water as regular diesel fuel.
With the Spicer test, as we discussed, Power Service chose not to participate in this paid study for several reasons, one of which being that they would not allow us to supply our own additive. As a result, there is question as to whether or not they used our older formulations or the ones containing Slickdiesel lubricator. Furthermore, we have been testing the lubricity of fuels for years, and on the national average we see a 200 micron WSD improvement using Diesel Kleen or Diesel Fuel Supplement at a single treatment ratio. The fuel used in the Spicer test is also not close to indicative of what would be found at a retail pump, as it was a intentionally made to be an off-specification product. Remember that every fuel has slightly different characteristics, and responds differently to additives.
Please do not hesitate to ask if you have additional questions.
It was a pleasure speaking with you earlier today. I will briefly summarize what we discussed.
Diesel Kleen and Diesel Fuel Supplement are demulsifier/solubilizers. This means that they will not allow the fuel to carry any more water than it naturally would, and they will demulsify excess water. Neither of these products will emulsify free water droplets into the fuel. Diesel fuel typically carries 50-100 ppm water naturally. Biodiesel can carry 10x the amount of water as regular diesel fuel.
With the Spicer test, as we discussed, Power Service chose not to participate in this paid study for several reasons, one of which being that they would not allow us to supply our own additive. As a result, there is question as to whether or not they used our older formulations or the ones containing Slickdiesel lubricator. Furthermore, we have been testing the lubricity of fuels for years, and on the national average we see a 200 micron WSD improvement using Diesel Kleen or Diesel Fuel Supplement at a single treatment ratio. The fuel used in the Spicer test is also not close to indicative of what would be found at a retail pump, as it was a intentionally made to be an off-specification product. Remember that every fuel has slightly different characteristics, and responds differently to additives.
Please do not hesitate to ask if you have additional questions.