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Old May 24, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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1. Sounds like you have replaced the pads and rotors. Have you greased and/or replace the pins on the slide caliper? They get dry and cause the caliper to stick after braking, meaning it doesn't expand apart far enough to prevent rubbing (squeaking) on the rotor on occasion. I had this problem and corrected it with new pins and synthetic brake lube. Napa carries new slide pins.

2. Your shock bushings and other bushings may be squeaking, but from my experience the body mounts ALWAYS squeak. Drives me nuts too, but they will not be touched for a while, as new mounts are pricey and there is no guarantee the sound will go away from what I can tell. In my opinion the Excursion body is long and flexes a lot, causing the squeaking regardless of body mount wear.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Skinsfan6
1. Sounds like you have replaced the pads and rotors. Have you greased and/or replace the pins on the slide caliper? They get dry and cause the caliper to stick after braking, meaning it doesn't expand apart far enough to prevent rubbing (squeaking) on the rotor on occasion. I had this problem and corrected it with new pins and synthetic brake lube. Napa carries new slide pins.

2. Your shock bushings and other bushings may be squeaking, but from my experience the body mounts ALWAYS squeak. Drives me nuts too, but they will not be touched for a while, as new mounts are pricey and there is no guarantee the sound will go away from what I can tell. In my opinion the Excursion body is long and flexes a lot, causing the squeaking regardless of body mount wear.
Mine has a lot of miles and doesn't squeak at all so I never looked into fixing it but I hear they can be involved and expensive so I was wondering if there is some kind of easy fix like spreading them with a big screwdriver and shooting some heavy grease in there?
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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I had my guy look at it today and he says it is creaking because some of the stuff has loosened up a bit like the sway bar links in the rear. So he is going to re- tighten everything next week.

I have also developed a leak in my rear differential, slow leak, it is just a little wet on the bottom, not dripping. So we are fixin' that also.

At any rate the break squeak comes and goes, I blame the pads. I am going to try some ceramic pads and see how those go. The breaks were all redone a week or so ago, new slide pins, shims all that, pads rotors, ebrake (springs and all), everything short of replacing the calipers. I've heard that ceramic pads eat rotors, but I really don't care, rotors are cheap, the creaks, squeaks and squeals drive me friggin nuts.

We are also doing the manifolds next week, I wanted to wait till I could afford headers but it doesn't look like it is going to play out. I've heard that leaky manifolds are bad for the exhaust valves... so I'm going to try to get ahead of that potential problem.

I am thinking about removing the CAT entirely, maybe then this thing will sound mean instead of how it sounds now, which is sort of like a big baby.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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I had my guy look at it today and he says it is creaking because some of the stuff has loosened up a bit like the sway bar links in the rear. So he is going to re- tighten everything next week.

I have also developed a leak in my rear differential, slow leak, it is just a little wet on the bottom, not dripping. So we are fixin' that also.

At any rate the break squeak comes and goes, I blame the pads. I am going to try some ceramic pads and see how those go. The breaks were all redone a week or so ago, new slide pins, shims all that, pads rotors, ebrake (springs and all), everything short of replacing the calipers. I've heard that ceramic pads eat rotors, but I really don't care, rotors are cheap, the creaks, squeaks and squeals drive me friggin nuts.

We are also doing the manifolds next week, I wanted to wait till I could afford headers but it doesn't look like it is going to play out. I've heard that leaky manifolds are bad for the exhaust valves... so I'm going to try to get ahead of that potential problem.

I am thinking about removing the CAT entirely, maybe then this thing will sound mean instead of how it sounds now, which is sort of like a big baby.
Get rip off the cat ... I just tolk mine of few months bak and its sounds really good and i also left my stock muffler on ...
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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I don't have the stock muffler... I have the Flowmaster 44 which is pretty much as loud of a muffler as you can get besides a glass pack. It still sounds like a little baby though, compared to my old truck with a 460ci, no cat and a DynoMax.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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I don't have the stock muffler... I have the Flowmaster 44 which is pretty much as loud of a muffler as you can get besides a glass pack. It still sounds like a little baby though, compared to my old truck with a 460ci, no cat and a DynoMax.
Oh ok it should sound good ... I bet that damn cat is killing the motor its huge ...
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ComputerCowboy
I had my guy look at it today and he says it is creaking because some of the stuff has loosened up a bit like the sway bar links in the rear. So he is going to re- tighten everything next week.

I have also developed a leak in my rear differential, slow leak, it is just a little wet on the bottom, not dripping. So we are fixin' that also.

At any rate the break squeak comes and goes, I blame the pads. I am going to try some ceramic pads and see how those go. The breaks were all redone a week or so ago, new slide pins, shims all that, pads rotors, ebrake (springs and all), everything short of replacing the calipers. I've heard that ceramic pads eat rotors, but I really don't care, rotors are cheap, the creaks, squeaks and squeals drive me friggin nuts.

We are also doing the manifolds next week, I wanted to wait till I could afford headers but it doesn't look like it is going to play out. I've heard that leaky manifolds are bad for the exhaust valves... so I'm going to try to get ahead of that potential problem.

I am thinking about removing the CAT entirely, maybe then this thing will sound mean instead of how it sounds now, which is sort of like a big baby.
That theory has been around since day one and the assumption is that cold air rushes back inside and cools the valves too fast and warps them but I doubt if there is any truth to the old wives tale.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ComputerCowboy
I had my guy look at it today and he says it is creaking because some of the stuff has loosened up a bit like the sway bar links in the rear. So he is going to re- tighten everything next week.

I have also developed a leak in my rear differential, slow leak, it is just a little wet on the bottom, not dripping. So we are fixin' that also.

At any rate the break squeak comes and goes, I blame the pads. I am going to try some ceramic pads and see how those go. The breaks were all redone a week or so ago, new slide pins, shims all that, pads rotors, ebrake (springs and all), everything short of replacing the calipers. I've heard that ceramic pads eat rotors, but I really don't care, rotors are cheap, the creaks, squeaks and squeals drive me friggin nuts.

I am thinking about removing the CAT entirely, maybe then this thing will sound mean instead of how it sounds now, which is sort of like a big baby.
It's a shame you didn't drive it around much before getting everything done to it. I would bet $100 it squeaked before the suspension work was done.

The brake squeak I can almost assure you is the pins. If you feel the need to try different pads grease the slide pins while you are already in there. It would be stupid not to. Ceramic pads are noisier than conventional materials and make more squealing noises from my experiences.

I suggest removing the muffler, and leaving the cat. My F150 and a few buddies' trucks sounded good with the factory cat(s) and no muffler. At least then you're technically legal. Regardless of whether they check during inspection, it is still illegal to remove the cat.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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The brake squeak sort of developed after about 1,500 miles of driving. I didn't squeak at all before.

I am going to try some of that stop squeal treatment and have my guy lube the hell out of the sliding parts.

I don't care that much about legal, if it has an inspection sticker it is legal. I'm having my guy build me a straight pipe with flanges on it that fits where the CAT does. I can put the CAT back come inspection time then take it right back off, just a few bolts.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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This is why I like cheapo pads, they stop just fine and last plenty long (yes I know I am a tightwad).
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ComputerCowboy
The brake squeak sort of developed after about 1,500 miles of driving. I didn't squeak at all before.

I am going to try some of that stop squeal treatment and have my guy lube the hell out of the sliding parts.

I don't care that much about legal, if it has an inspection sticker it is legal. I'm having my guy build me a straight pipe with flanges on it that fits where the CAT does. I can put the CAT back come inspection time then take it right back off, just a few bolts.
I'm in michigan no inspections here at all... I really like the ideal of no cat with a stock muffler ... I guess everyone likes different kind of sound ... Check ur email
 
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