Water through the input shaft?
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Water through the input shaft?
I have my big ugly pile of crap waterproofed pretty good, diffs and t-case always stay water freepriblem I never seem to be able to keep water out of the T19. It's breather is extended up on the firewall with the diff breather and while it could get water down the shifter I run no shift boot and it definitely was dry all weekend, yet the trans is full of water again, the old T19 did this too. All I can figure is it is getting past the input shaft seal. Anyone else ever have this problem?
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I don't see there normally being enough oil on that side of the input bearing to cause it to leak, it is a good 2-3" above the full level in the case so it only sees splash. Like I said, this is the second transmission I have had this issue with, I put in new seals when I put it in and there is no other way in I can think of short of a hole in the case.
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Thats what I was thinking. It is just a simple lip seal in there, and it's not exactly like it was designed to be exposed to water or hold much oil back. I guess I'm going to have to come up with a better or second seal to jam in there.
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I will check everything else and I am going to see if I can stack a second seal in there facing the other way.
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You'd be surprised. I had the cover on the ranger and it used to alway get clogged up with mud and kill the starter. Since I took it off, I can wash it out much easier and keep starters longer.
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It gets in through the clutch fork boot, the starter flange, you name it if there's a way in it will find it. Reverse in a mud hole used to be suicide. I had tried sealing up every mating surface with silicone, plugged every hole I could find and I still ended up yanking the clutch on the trail to clean it, while I have had no issues since I opened it up.
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Originally Posted by kjett
Since I took it off, I can wash it out much easier and keep starters longer.
82,
Ive never had trouble with mud like this and Ive wheeled in some of the nastiest cement like mule snot known to man. I dont have much of a solution for you
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The problem I ran into with the clutch is not so much the mud itself, but, small sticks, grass, roots, etc that get mixed in with the water on top of the soup when I went deep that would pack in behind the fingers of the pressure plate when the clutch was disengaged(good old centrifugal force,) that combination mixed with fine clay silt in the water hits the warm pressure plate, dries out and turns into cement. Remember, in the deep stuff I can be dealing with 2-3 feet of water on top of the mud(yay for 6+" of water in the cab,) just giving up trying to seal things alleviated that problem, no hot dry pressure plate, no cement. I have never had a problem where it was just mud or nasty old muskeg to the rockers, only when water is also involved.
I think I am going to pull apart one of my spare transmissions and see about stacking a second stock seal in there facing the other way so it seals the water out.
I think I am going to pull apart one of my spare transmissions and see about stacking a second stock seal in there facing the other way so it seals the water out.