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Old May 14, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Shake-N-Bake
Great advice above as well...
Always check the simple stuff. Oil level is a key one. Must have a certain amount or the engine simply will not start.

I forgot to ask....
Does your Wait To Start light come on? Is there any smoke out the tailpipe while cranking?
thanks for turbo info, oil was checked and good. when cranking blew some smoke, white, not much though ....wait to start light may not come on. I glow it, give it a few more seconds then crank. He put in a new glow plug sensor as well to see if it helped.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
Do you have an aftermarket air intake, or aftermarket air filter?

I had a K& N on my 7.3, and it let dust by, but I caught it early.
The AFE air intake for my 6.4 cracked at the boot, I'm done with aftermarket air intake stuff, it's all expensive, and the quality is crap.
no, none of that stuff, she is stock,

the fuel filter is good as well, fuel in bowl.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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How cold is it there when you are doing this?

Are these mechanics checking that 12 v is actually hitting the glow plugs, or just replacing stuff?
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mak7.3
thanks for turbo info, oil was checked and good. when cranking blew some smoke, white, not much though ....wait to start light may not come on. I glow it, give it a few more seconds then crank. He put in a new glow plug sensor as well to see if it helped.
Sounds like the next step is to check the condition of your turbo. White smoke means you have enough voltage and the PCM is trying to start the engine. Compression is my next concern based on your description of the symptoms. Do you know how to check engine compression?
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
How cold is it there when you are doing this?

Are these mechanics checking that 12 v is actually hitting the glow plugs, or just replacing stuff?
not cold at all, up in canada 25 degrees today, 80 plus.( winter damn cold) I couldn't tell you if he checked glow plugs for 12v, I think he may have checked signal, that when he out on a new relay or switch.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Shake-N-Bake
Sounds like the next step is to check the condition of your turbo. White smoke means you have enough voltage and the PCM is trying to start the engine. Compression is my next concern based on your description of the symptoms. Do you know how to check engine compression?
No I do not. He said turbo was dusty, not damaged, but looked like it had been sucking in dust.

Just as a footnote, the mechanic has a pretty good name for himself. He also said he will take out the new parts if the truck won't start, didn't believe in charging me extra if he couldn't get it running.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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not cold at all, up in canada 25 degrees today, 80 plus.( winter damn cold) I couldn't tell you if he checked glow plugs for 12v, I think he may have checked signal, that when he out on a new relay or switch.
Where in canada?

There are a lot of things that can cause hard cold starts, but it sounds like stuff has been replaced without properly diagnosing what is actually wrong.
At that temperature, glow plugs shouldn't even matter.
In that weather, I never waited for the glow plug light, and it always started instantly.
So here are some possibilities:

1. Not enough power for electronics to operate properly (check batt voltage while cranking)
2. Low pressure fuel system failure / or plugged filter
3. Low compression
4. CPS (doubt it, as you said it was replaced already)
5. Bad fuel? You said it was sitting for a while, its possible.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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No I do not. He said turbo was dusty, not damaged, but looked like it had been sucking in dust.

Just as a footnote, the mechanic has a pretty good name for himself. He also said he will take out the new parts if the truck won't start, didn't believe in charging me extra if he couldn't get it running.

I'd say based on my limited knowledge, that with the miles on that truck, I doubt the entire motor is dusted if the turbo is dusty but in good condition.

There are plenty of good mechanics that are terrible with diesels, terrible with electronics, or both.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Maybe fuel, its under 1/4 tank. I did throw a jerry can in though to bring it up.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
I'd say based on my limited knowledge, that with the miles on that truck, I doubt the entire motor is dusted if the turbo is dusty but in good condition.

There are plenty of good mechanics that are terrible with diesels, terrible with electronics, or both.
Ya, i am not convinced its done myself, it ran strong before i parked it. I will have to get it towed to another place, probably wait another day to hear back on anything, and then and if then wait for it to get fixed. Unfortunately I have to get something one the road, and no rental companies out here will let you haul or tow. That's why I may have to consider 07, and fix the 7.3 behind the scenes.(thanks for info, I will pass it bye him )
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Maybe fuel, its under 1/4 tank. I did throw a jerry can in though to bring it up.

Cool, I worked around calgary, in fact was just there the other day.

You should drain out the fuel bowl on the engine into a container and see what it looks like. I'd also want to at least look at the filter.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Ya, i am not convinced its done myself, it ran strong before i parked it. I will have to get it towed to another place, probably wait another day to hear back on anything, and then and if then wait for it to get fixed. Unfortunately I have to get something one the road, and no rental companies out here will let you haul or tow. That's why I may have to consider 07, and fix the 7.3 behind the scenes.(thanks for info, I will pass it bye him )
I would just go to calmont or leasing place, they sell fleet leased vehicles. Just buy a cheap gas f350 for a backup truck, and get the 7.3 going.

Edited : figure out what you're dealing with. Within a short amount of time and the right people, you should know very quickly what it will take to get the 7.3 going, and take it from there.
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
Cool, I worked around calgary, in fact was just there the other day.

You should drain out the fuel bowl on the engine into a container and see what it looks like. I'd also want to at least look at the filter.
Emptied the bowl where the fuel filter was ( filter clean too), fuel didn't look bad, it is old, but added new fuel. were you here before or after the snow last week
 
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I would just go to calmont or leasing place, they sell fleet leased vehicles. Just buy a cheap gas f350 for a backup truck, and get the 7.3 going.

Edited : figure out what you're dealing with. Within a short amount of time and the right people, you should know very quickly what it will take to get the 7.3 going, and take it from there.
Thanks, I will get the girl back up and running .
 
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Thanks for the help guys!
 
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