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Old May 3, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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I have a problem. I have a 1994 ranger with 200k miles on it. It runs great except when I first start it. It read an extremely low tach reading and it will hesitate at lower speeds. I had the error code read and it came back 111. I was told this was a performance problem. It has had a tune up and everything but I still have this problem. I added a fuel additive to clean the injectors and this seemed to help for a short period but not long.

After I run for a while this problem goes away and the CEL goes off. It reappears if I shut it off and resart it again. Even after it has warmed up plenty. Then a few more miles and it will go away again.

If anybody has any ideas it would be appreciated.

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Old May 3, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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Code 111 means "system pass" so it's not showing any errors. Was this from the KOEO (engine off) or KOER (engine running) test?
 
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Old May 4, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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It was from the key on engine off. It was read at autozone. Then the guy went in and looked it up on his computer. He showed me but I do not remember exactly what it said now. It has been a month and I thought for a short time I had it corrected but it still lingers. Maybe I should go in again to get refreshed about what exactly his computer showed.
 

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Old May 5, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Sounds to me like it's time for a V-8. I had the same problem in my 89 til I pulled the 2.9 and 5 speed and replaced them with a 302 and 4 speed.
 
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Old May 5, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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I had a problem that sounded similiar. Turned outto be a sticky EGR valve.
 
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Old May 5, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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I'll look into the EGR valve and let you know if this helps.

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Old May 6, 2003 | 01:54 AM
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Assuming you have the 4.0L engine, you ain't gonna find an EGR valve unless, maybe, it's a Californian truck. My gut instinct tells me to first look for a vaccum leak or probs with the evaporative emission system. How is the seal on the fuel cap and do you give it three+ clicks after it's on tight?

FYI, your Ford $ervice department has a "flight recorder" which is plugged into your 'puter plug under the hood. When the intermittant problem occurs, you hit a little button and data is stored in the flight recorder. This is nice, because the onboard computer does not store error codes for very long after the problem/condition goes away. The $ervice department can then extract the error code(s) from the flight recorder for you. Not that ya really wanna see the $ervice department, but just something to keep on the back burner.
 

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Old May 6, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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It is a 2.3l engine. I havn't had a chance to look into this more because i've been working alot but I'm going to avoid the service department. So far I can live with it but it is just annoying. I have had a problem with a vacuum leak before but these can be difficult to chase down. I am just looking for some good leads to start with. I'll keep you posted on how it turns out. Thanks for the suggestions so far. Any others are still welcome.

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Old May 20, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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Okay. I read the codes myself and this is what I came up with. KOEO I recieved code 224 (Spout Circuit open). With KOER I recieved 224 and 998 (hard fault present).

Does anybody have any information on the spout circuit? What does it do or control? How I can replace it if needed? Where I might be able to locate it etc..? I couldn't find much in the manual about it except a mention in the iginition timing procedure about it.

How about the 998 code. Could it be possible that this one was caused by the other being present or do you think there might be another problem? If so how should I go about starting to figure out this one?

Thanks for any help.
 
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Old May 20, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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your 224 code is telling you that your primary coil has failed or it is loosing voltage. This can ( given the right curcumstance's) give you the 998 code. The 998 is letting the engine run in "Fail Safe Mode" or "Limp In Mode". Check the primary coil and wiring for defect's, when located and found, erase error code's and run the engine.
 
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Old May 20, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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I checked the coils and according to the manual it looks like they are okay. The resitance across the primary was about .9 ohms and the resistance across the scondary was 14k ohms. How should I check to see if it is loosing voltage?
 
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Old May 20, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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O.K., but are you getting voltage to the coil? More importantly are you getting spark out?
 
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Old May 20, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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I am getting voltage to the coil. As far as getting spark out I'll need to check each wire individually. I'll let you know after I check this out.
 
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Old May 21, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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I hope that you find your problem.
 
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Old May 21, 2003 | 01:34 AM
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Okay. It seems to have spark coming out. I am going to look at the ignition control module next. I found a spot in the manual that says to check the spout connector with a test LED and it should blink if its present. If not present check the wiring or replace module. Now I just need to locate the ignition module. Any ideas where it is located? I'm going to look tomorrow. Time to give it a rest tonight.
 
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