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I have seen plenty of those modern stiff truck frames cracked and broken.... Loggers use and abuse trucks far beyond the thought of any engineer. Plain old C-channel frames like Ford still uses under the Super Duty, they might not be the stiffest thing out there, and that may hurt handling, but, they last.
Another thing to factor in is that with a stiff frame, anything that isnt absorbed by the suspension is transmitted directly to the body, my old work truck(08 2500HD, Duramax) had more squeaks and rattles in it at 55K than my 96 F250 does at 220K.
It might make for good advertising, and it makes sense for a truck thats really just a car with a box that never leaves pavement, but for a real truck that actually works and spends considerable time off pavement, it just doesn't work.
Buggies are a whole different ballgame, and you can't really compare a suspension with a drivetrain attached to a consumer pickup.
I have seen plenty of those modern stiff truck frames cracked and broken.... Loggers use and abuse trucks far beyond the thought of any engineer. Plain old C-channel frames like Ford still uses under the Super Duty, they might not be the stiffest thing out there, and that may hurt handling, but, they last.
Another thing to factor in is that with a stiff frame, anything that isnt absorbed by the suspension is transmitted directly to the body, my old work truck(08 2500HD, Duramax) had more squeaks and rattles in it at 55K than my 96 F250 does at 220K.
It might make for good advertising, and it makes sense for a truck thats really just a car with a box that never leaves pavement, but for a real truck that actually works and spends considerable time off pavement, it just doesn't work.
Buggies are a whole different ballgame, and you can't really compare a suspension with a drivetrain attached to a consumer pickup.
That is pretty much the way I have always seen it, maybe it wasnt engineered for the frames to flex, maybe they saw that happen and let it do its thing. If that was the case there hasnt been an issue. And all the pre boxed frame trucks did it and never had an issue. It wasnt a bad thing umtill boxed frames were advertised...and if it was an issue it would have been looked into a long time ago. because it has always been around...thanks
I wasn't bragging about my stupid duty, I was saying that old truck was impressive for not having as much frame flex as the stupid duty. Frame flex is bad, op.
I wasn't bragging about my stupid duty, I was saying that old truck was impressive for not having as much frame flex as the stupid duty. Frame flex is bad, op.
Did some one say you were bragging?...lol...Is that a reg cab superduty? because if its longer than this truck it gets worse. It seems to me highboy frames and superduty frames are pretty comparable in strength.
Its ok...he has no idea what hes talking about either.
I do not completely agree with your assessment of frame engineering but i do not have the strength for a full rebuttal at this time.
I know what I'm talking about...don't you?? I learned to speak and write proper English a long time ago. Next on my agenda...an advanced degree in English Literature. I plan to specialize in Shakesperian verbage.
I know what I'm talking about...don't you?? I learned to speak and write proper English a long time ago. Next on my agenda...an advanced degree in English Literature. I plan to specialize in Shakesperian verbage.
this has got to be the single funniest hack ever to grace the pages of FTE.
shes a dumb knocked up blonde...twins run in her family...and we getting started on that! time for me to get real...dont want my kids thinking larry the cable guy is top notch in the brains department. (or anyone named larry)
You guys do realize frame flex isnt a "good" thing in most any situation and not a substitute for suspension flex.
Originally Posted by kjett
I was about to say the same thing. I guess having your bed bent in an oppisite direction from the cab is cool to some people, just not me.....
Originally Posted by 77mud
so i shouldnt notch my frame to weaken it a little to get a few more inches of flex outta the frame?
Them^^
Originally Posted by 401477534
Did some one say you were bragging?...lol...Is that a reg cab superduty? because if its longer than this truck it gets worse. It seems to me highboy frames and superduty frames are pretty comparable in strength.