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Old May 2, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Talking New Meats

Finally got totally fed up with the Michelin's.

New shoes for the baby: Wrangler Silent Armor 305 65 R20 E.

Yeah, I know that I'm giving up about 600 lbs of capacity, but this thing only works when I'm towing my 8K TT. No worries there.

First 150 miles remarks:

Very quiet! Michelin's were horrible with expansion joints in concrete hwys.

Ride very comparable.

Handling great. Steering is more responsive, I tribute that to the 60 vs 65 sidewall.

Traction. Night and day versus the Michelin's.

Speedo. Very little difference; only about 5 rpm difference (Wranglers slightly taller than stock Michelin's)

Discount Tire store even reprogrammed the TPMS for the 65psi treads.

Happy camper so far!

jammer

Pics!

[IMG]<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/77918746@N02/6994029646/" title="Good stance for stock by 295jer, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7121/6994029646_bd112b293e_c.jpg" width="800" height="451" alt="Good stance for stock"></a>[/IMG]
Good stance for stock

[IMG]<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/77918746@N02/7140114803/" title="Rear nicely fills wheel well by 295jer, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7140114803_ce5b2f8752_c.jpg" width="800" height="451" alt="Rear nicely fills wheel well"></a>[/IMG]
Rear nicely fills wheelwell

[IMG]<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/77918746@N02/7140113199/" title="Nothing rubs by 295jer, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/7140113199_86e6bf4835_c.jpg" width="800" height="451" alt="Nothing rubs"></a>[/IMG]
Nothing rubs!

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Old May 2, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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First time I've heard tires called Meats - I thought you were talking about all the new owners/posters!!
 
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Old May 2, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Any pics? I am looking for new tire this winter and trying to get all the info I can. But am considering the Duratracs.
 
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Old May 2, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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I was expecting a BBQ review
 
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Old May 2, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by doublenot7
I was expecting a BBQ review
LoL
 
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Old May 2, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Definitely need pics. I put these same tires on my wife's 4Runner and have been very pleased with them. I'm considering them for my truck as well and I'm interested to see how they look on the 20" rims.
 
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Old May 2, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Pics needed fo sho. My GF's truck will need tires soon.
 
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Old May 2, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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I knew what he meant by "meats", I recall that from my younger days. I'm getting my new Nitto's tomorrow from ................... Discount Tire Store. Are you serious, they could change the TPMS to be at 65 psi. That's the first I've heard that anyboday could do that except dealers that new how to. I asked my dealer mechanic and he said he was, but at the time over a year ago, he didn't know how to do it yet.
 
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Originally Posted by FORDTUF1
I knew what he meant by "meats", I recall that from my younger days. I'm getting my new Nitto's tomorrow from ................... Discount Tire Store. Are you serious, they could change the TPMS to be at 65 psi. That's the first I've heard that anyboday could do that except dealers that new how to. I asked my dealer mechanic and he said he was, but at the time over a year ago, he didn't know how to do it yet.
Yea, I put 285's on mine when it was new- 800 miles - the required 65# - not 80# Discount Tire retrained my TPMS then - I have seen the yellow warning one time - When I had a slow leak - Now I got about 38-39k miles... Setting still good....
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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pics added; see OP

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That is a sharp looking truck!
 
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Old May 4, 2012 | 05:13 AM
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Silent armory are available in load range E. maybe not that size but we don't have to drop the load capacity if you don't want to and like these tires. I've had a couple sets of them and liked them and the duratrac's very much.
 
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Old May 4, 2012 | 07:22 AM
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The 305/60/20 is an E rated tire... 3415lbs at 65psi.
 
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Old May 4, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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I had the Load range E Silent Armors on my Tundra and I really liked them. They were great in the snow. When these stock LTX ATs wear out, I will do the same.

No rubbing issues with 305s? I intend to get the same size on my truck!
 
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Old May 4, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dim Sum
No rubbing issues with 305s? I intend to get the same size on my truck!
confirmed, no rubbing on my truck

jammer

More tire info than you ever wanted to know!

Wrangler - Michelin ATX comparison

Wrangler - 305 60R20E 123/120R
3472 - 3169 Lbs/tire - Speed rated to 106 mph @ 65psi

Michelin - 275 65R20E 126/123R
3750 - 3472 Lbs/tire - Speed rated to 106 mph @ 80psi

The first number of the load index is for srw axle
The second number of the load index is for drw axle
The letter is the speed rating

Each manufacture interprets the load range index in their own interest. I suspect that some tires fall in between indexes and therefore, they advertise the load range index along with their recommended load ratings.

So you can see that with the Wranglers, you are giving up ~278 to 303 Lbs/tire load capacity (single rw vs dual rw). That equates to ~550 Lbs of load capacity on the rear axle (srw).

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