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I've been looking for a good set of original Ford mirrors for my truck, and finally found some-



They have the FoMoCo script on them, so I know at least the heads are correct-



I was comparing them to the ones in the parts manual, and they don't seem to be an exact match. This is the closest one, MOST of the parts are the same-



Though mine has an additional side brace- There was nothing exactly like it in the catalog. They came off a '62, I think, but I obviously don't know if they were on there from the dealer or not. So, Are they original FOMOCO mirrors, or just Ford Mirror heads on some other brackets??

It looks like they are going to clean up very nicely- The nuts/bolts are really rusted, but they all came off pretty easily, the threads were not rusted at all! I'm going to replace them with all stainless hardware.

When I go to mount them, Where exactly do they go? I'd like to see some pics of them installed before I drill any holes


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Click on the thread below about brochures them 1967 then the picture to far right of the pickup with the camper on it, good picture of where to the mirror ..
 
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I've been looking for a good set of original Ford mirrors for my truck, and finally found some for 1967/72 F100/350's



I was comparing them to the ones in the parts manual, and they don't seem to be an exact match. This is the closest one, MOST of the parts are the same.
The parts are not the same.

Compare the brackets, arms and mirror head v v with the ^ ^ C7TZ-17696-E Western mirror you acquired, totally different!



E100 = Econoline: This is C4UZ-17696-F. A similar mirror was available for 1961/66 F100/350's: C6TZ-17696-A

Though mine has an additional side brace- There was nothing exactly like it in the catalog. They came off a '62, I think, but I obviously don't know if they were on there from the dealer or not.

Are they original FoMoCo mirrors, or just Ford Mirror heads on some other brackets??
Genuine Ford, introduced in 1967 for F100/350's, commonly seen on 1967/72 Camper Specials.
This stainless steel mirror is C7TZ-17696-E .. Western Mirror w/3rd Steady-Rest Arm / Introduced in 1967, no 1961/66 came with them.

If you want to see what is correct and available for 1961/66's, see post 22 in the side mirror sticky on page 1.

C6TZ-17723-A .. Mirror Head - 6" x 10" / Use with C4UZ-17696-F (1964/74 Econoline) & C6TZ-17696-A (1961/66 F100/350).

C7TZ-17723-A .. Mirror Head -6" x 10" / Use with C7TZ-17696-E (1967/72 F100/350) / Use with D3TZ-17696-A & D3TZ-17696-B (1973/79 F100/350 & 1978/79 Bronco).
 
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Thanks, Bill... I figured you'd know the answer!

I'm not really worried that they are '67 rather than '66, as long as I can make them work, and I think I can without too much difficulty... I like 'em better than most of the 'aftermarket' ones I've found so far.
 
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Thanks, Bill... I figured you'd know the answer!

I'm not really worried that they are '67 rather than '66, as long as I can make them work, and I think I can without too much difficulty... I like 'em better than most of the 'aftermarket' ones I've found so far.
This 1967/72 C7TZ-17696-E Western mirror is very hard to find, especially in this condition. No one repro's them, no Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

The problem is, this mirror was designed for Camper Specials with slide in the bed and/or chassis mounted over the roof campers. These type of campers are wider than the cab.

Because the field of rear vision with the Western Junior (no 3rd arm) mirrors (examples: C4UZ-17696-F & C6TZ-17696-A) is very limited, the goose necked arms on the C7TZ-17696-E Western mirrors are much longer, so...

When installed on 1967/72's, they STICK OUT well past the cab. Do you want mirrors that stick out this far? Hope you don't have a narrow driveway and/or live on a narrow street!
 
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Well, I pull my restored classic boats with the truck-



And they are a bit wider than the truck- So the mirrors might be perfect... Other than the bolts that are badly rusted, they are in GREAT shape, I just need to replace the glass on one side since the mirror on the back is peeling. I did notice that they are pretty wide, but I've got a nice wide driveway

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I like those red wheels, contrast nicely with the black paint.

During the Korean War, white wall tires were not available. So automakers painted the wheels red, to 'dress up' their vehicles.

The two happiest days in boat owners lives are when they buy it...and when they sell it!

A boat is a hole in the water that you pour money in.

I once owned a 1967 37 1/2' Chris. It spent most of its time at the dock, cuz there was always something wrong with it.

It had 2 Chevy 327 engines, I prolly spent more money fixing those 2 terds, than the cost for 2 new engines.
 
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I like those red wheels, contrast nicely with the black paint.
Thanks- Though I'm not sure if I'm going to keep 'em red after the repaint, since I think I'm going blue/wimbelton white...

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The two happiest days in boat owners lifes are when they buy it...and when they sell it!

A boat is a hole in the water that you pour money in.
Both true statements, although I really enjoy my boats! I have restored many of them, and currently have the 1960 Glasspar that's in the photo, and a 1959 Lake N Sea which is currently being restored, plus a 1959 Volksboat.... They are all total 'packages', with vintage trailers, motors, etc. Fun to use, but even more fun to look at!

I got in to older trucks as an offshoot of my boat hobby- I wanted something cool to pull the boats with! Although the '66 is a LOT newer than the boats, I like the more modern conveniences in the newer truck (Power steering, etc).

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There's a fibreglas boat (what I would call a day cruiser) in La Habra Heights, about 5 minutes from me, that has fins and chrome side mouldings similar to a 1957 Chevy.

I dunno who the manufacturer was, but there's a pic of it in the SoCal chapter forum. I'll see if I can find it.

Also on this property, which is very neglected, is a circa 1966 Porsche 911, parked in the side yard with trees and high weeds surrounding it. It hasn't moved in a long time.
 
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Sounds like it might be a Red Fish, or similar. Lots of the late 50's boats were styled to look like the cars of the day- My Lake N Sea is no exception, this is her transom before I started working on her-



Fins, Louvers, the whole 9 yards. She's had a 'gut job' restoration, and is in the process of being painted and reassembled now. It'll be painted PINK- Think Chevy/Cadillac pink- Which was one of the original factory colors for the boat. Only a handful are left today, and as far as I know, none of the pink ones made it!!

EVERYTHING had more class back then- Even the trailers were cool- this is the 1959 Tee-Nee trailer that I restored for the boat-



Check out the teardrop fenders! She's also got chrome hubcaps...

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That appears to be the same boat (except for the colors, local boat is black over white) has the same side mouldings, but no nameplates.

I've never seen the stern, cuz I don't want to walk on private property, especially this mangy private property.

What is a boat like this worth?
 
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What is a boat like this worth?
Much like these trucks, whatever someone will pay for it...

As you well know, RARE does not always equate to VALUABLE. While there are only a handful of them left, you have to find that person that really wants one. I know where there's a very nicely (though not 100% correct) restored one that could be had for about $6k, with a vintage motor. They really aren't super valuable, especially when you consider the work that goes in to them! I don't even want to know how many hours, dollars, and gallons of epoxy I've sunk into mine. It's a labor of love, though, much like these @#*(@# trucks

This is how it looks from the front-

 
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Man, that is a work of art.
 
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Thanks- It's always been one of my favorite boats.

If anyone is interested in seeing the restoration in progress, it's detailed here-

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Lot of work I see. Brings back good and bad memories. My dad left me his baby. 1948 42' Chris Craft Constillation Cabin Cruiser. It was in near mint condition. Twin 6 cylinder flat heads. That thing would fly for its size. Forget how many coats of varnish he said it had but it was a lot. Kept it for about 12 yrs and finally sold it. It was just too big and too much to keep up with. It was an incredible yacht and a heck of a head turner but too big and too much work. I like the size of the one your working on...Very cool looking boat.
 

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