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I have a 96 F150 4x4 with ifs and im looking into swapping to a solid axle. What year donor truck should I look for to have the sturdiest axle for off road use with little fabrication?
I have a 96 F150 4x4 with ifs and im looking into swapping to a solid axle. What year donor truck should I look for to have the sturdiest axle for off road use with little fabrication?
Well if you are looking for the sturdiest axle(s), then junk the half ton stuff as step up to one ton axles.
Might take a bit more fab, but you can't beat the strength factor.
I also can't see any advantage to go SAS on half ton running gear as you really cannot safely run any bigger tires than you can with a properly setup TTB.
either a Dana44 or Dana 60 require the same amount of work to swap in, like others have said a d44 isnt much of a upgrade of what you want, as far as d60's go, 78 and newer ford 60's are the best, 78-79 housing have alot of room on the drivers side for control arm mounts, later ones have less but can still work with ease, You can either buy a axle bracket kit or fab your own stuff, also around 92 they went from kingpin to balljoints
A D44 solid axle is a big upgrade. A D44 TTB, can only handle up to 35" tires on serious off-roading. A D44 solid axle can handle up to 39" tires serious off-roading. Yes, I know people that run 39" and even 40" tires with D44 solid axle, and abuse them.
Anything bigger than 40's I recommend a D60.
A D60 takes more work to swap than a D44, because you can use your TTB coil bucket/shock tower, and it gives you 2" more lift.
A D44 solid axle is a big upgrade. A D44 TTB, can only handle up to 35" tires on serious off-roading. A D44 solid axle can handle up to 39" tires serious off-roading. Yes, I know people that run 39" and even 40" tires with D44 solid axle, and abuse them.
Anything bigger than 40's I recommend a D60.
A D60 takes more work to swap than a D44, because you can use your TTB coil bucket/shock tower, and it gives you 2" more lift.
and thats why i see d44 stuff get constantly broken on lightwieght jeeps on 35-37" tires, i cant recomend anything bigger then a 35 unless you got high dollar axle shafts and ujoints, and explain why i d60 is more work, both axles need the same exact brackets and mounts, only diff is the bolt pattern
and thats why i see d44 stuff get constantly broken on lightwieght jeeps on 35-37" tires, i cant recomend anything bigger then a 35 unless you got high dollar axle shafts and ujoints, and explain why i d60 is more work, both axles need the same exact brackets and mounts, only diff is the bolt pattern
Gee I don't know. My D44 HD handles everything I throw at it. And it gets wheeled pretty hard with my 35"x15.5" swampers on it. Of course, the Dana 60 is stronger though. The nice thing is that the D44 is so cheap compared to the D60 which is usually around 1000 bucks. I would just find a D44 out of a half ton and throw it in, that way you still have the 5 bolt pattern front and back.
I would just find a D44 out of a half ton and throw it in, that way you still have the 5 bolt pattern front and back.[/quote]
How do i know the difference between the dana 44 and the dana 44 HD? Would the stock rear end in my 96 F150 hold up to the offroad or is there a rear end swap I should look into?
Well if you are looking for the sturdiest axle(s), then junk the half ton stuff as step up to one ton axles.
Might take a bit more fab, but you can't beat the strength factor.
I also can't see any advantage to go SAS on half ton running gear as you really cannot safely run any bigger tires than you can with a properly setup TTB.
My opinion, David
I don't really wanna run any bigger than 35" tires. You think the ifs suspension with some aftermarket upgrades can handle the tires without changing axles while also not breaking? I want this truck to be solid something that i'm not gonna have to fix all the time.
A D44 and D44 HD is exactly the same, except from the knuckles out.
Internally yes. The HD will be set up for leaf springs and the Regular one will be set up for coil springs.
So you could have an 8 bolt front end with coil springs eventually if you wanted.
I have a 96 F150 4x4 with ifs and im looking into swapping to a solid axle. What year donor truck should I look for to have the sturdiest axle for off road use with little fabrication?
Dana 44, Dana 60, 35" tires, 40" tires... none of this stuff matters and no one can give you good advice without knowing:
- What size tires you plan on running
- What gears
- How much horsepower
- What you mean by "off road use". Rock crawling has much different requirements than a trail through the woods with an occasional mud puddle.
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