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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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Egr help.

My truck started to ping today at low speeds, for the first time since i bought it.
I've been up late searching the forums on pinging, and the opinion is the lack of egr.
So i realized mine isn't hooked up, its there, but no vacuum lines.
So i know i need to hook it into the thermal switch on the thermostat housing, but from where do i splice into to get vacuum?
I was thinking tap into the vacuum advance hose, would that be a OK place to start?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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If your engine is a 400 here's the vacuum diagram.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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Do I have to route the vacuum lines just like the diagram to make it work right?
Or can I just tap into the vacuum line feeding my dist. Then run it to the switch on the thermostat, then run it to the egr?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Do I have to route the vacuum lines just like the diagram to make it work right?
Or can I just tap into the vacuum line feeding my dist. Then run it to the switch on the thermostat, then run it to the egr?
It doesn't work that way. The load control valve (LCV) determines when to activate the ERG valve based on vacuum level. IIRC, it's hooked to ported vacuum to determine load and switches manifold vacuum on and off.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 03:47 PM
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Ok, I guess this is deeper than I thought.
Where can I get a load control valve at?
And is that all I will need to get my egr working?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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D6AZ-9F424-A .. EGR Vacuum Load Control Valve Assy / Obsolete

Applications except CA: 1977/79 F100/350 351M/400 / 1978/79 Bronco 351M/400.

1976 LTD 400 / 1977/78 LTD 460 / 1978 LTD/Thunderbird/LTD II/Cougar/Mark V 400 / 1978/79 Fairmont/Zephyr 200 I-6 / 1979 LTD/Thunderbird/Cougar/LTD II 302.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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Valve assy, EGR vacuum load control
79 F100-350 w 351M400
Services valves marked D6BE-9F424-B1A, B2A
D7DZ-9F424-B
Kinsel Lincoln Mercury, Beaumont, TX has 1 (800) 816-2894
JST Automotive, Lebanon, TN has 1 (615) 943-3089
Parts International, Farmers Branch, TX has 1 (972) 241-8730
Last list $62.03 Dealer cost $37.22
You can also use the part/ID numbers I posted to call around to see if the parts stores can get one.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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The D6AZ-9F424-A that Bill posted:
JST Automotive has 1
Kinsel Lincoln Mercury has 8
Parts International has 11
Green Sales, Cincinnati, OH has 14 (800) 543-4959
Last list $58.70 Dealer cost $35.22
 
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Is there any difference in the part other than the part numbers?

So i hook up this load control valve to a timed port on the carb, then that plugs into the vacuum line running to the egr valve, which would come off of the switch on the thermostat housing, which plugs into a constant vacuum?
Is that right?
 
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Originally Posted by PRIMERED79 SHORT BED
Is there any difference in the part other than the part numbers?

So i hook up this load control valve to a timed port on the carb, then that plugs into the vacuum line running to the egr valve, which would come off of the switch on the thermostat housing, which plugs into a constant vacuum?
Is that right?
The D6AZ is listed in the catalog as being for a 77-78 F100-350 w/ 351M400 w/ ID # D6AE-9F424-A1A. The D7DZ is for a '79.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
The D6AZ is listed in the catalog as being for a 77-78 F100-350 w/ 351M400 w/ ID # D6AE-9F424-A1A. The D7DZ is for a '79.
Ok thanks for the clarification.

Can anybody correct what i have in my mind to route the vacuum lines?
Or will that work?
 
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Originally Posted by PRIMERED79 SHORT BED
Ok thanks for the clarification.

Can anybody correct what i have in my mind to route the vacuum lines?
Or will that work?
You got it about right, although there are various switches which change vacuum according to engine temperature and other factors.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by devino246
You got it about right, although there are various switches which change vacuum according to engine temperature and other factors.
Do you have any improvements i can make?
I want to get it right the first time.
 
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
The D6AZ is listed in the catalog as being for a 77-78 F100-350 w/ 351M400 w/ ID # D6AE-9F424-A1A. The D7DZ is for a '79.
The problem is, this info is from your older edition of the '73/79 light truck parts catalog, dated 1979. My 10/88 final edition lists D6AZ-9F424-A.

The Bronco and Passenger Car applications for D6AZ-9F424-A listed in post 6 are from the final edition (11/88) of the 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car parts catalog.

But, who knows after 33 years have passed by, which one of these valves the OP's truck has?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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So which one would be the wise choice?
 
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