is it possible to put a 351 or a 302 in a 97 f150 with the 5.4 e40d trans is so what all would have to be done in order for everything to work rite??

 

Everything has to be changed or altered.
Your trans is electric control.
The 302/351 if carbed won't control the trans.
If EEC controlled FI motor still won't control the trans.
Dash gages will not be useful.
The motor won't bolt up the the trans.
Exhaust is all different.
Won't pass emmmisions if needed.
To many issues to solve.
Fix your truck like it should be done.
A lot cheaper.
Good luck.

 

AMEN Bluegrass.

 

id like to stick with the original engine but i dont have 2 grand to fork out for a used or new one and nobody seems to know what the noise is mines making and why its using oil like crazy thats why ive been tryn to make sure they put it in time right because if the people didnt they might have bent my vavles because it never did this until the timing chains were replaced

 

You will spend FAR more than 2k trying to get a 351 in there! You will have to rewire all the gauges, fab motor mounts, custom exhaust.... the works. Nothing will work properly. the truck will never resell with that setup in it. Just get a reman engine and replace it. It will bolt up and everything will work properly and as it should.

 

As I asked here, who did the work?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11719428

 

Who did the job?
Hope it was some one who knew how to do it.
These motor designs are a lot different than the traditional push rod motors like the 302/351 motors.
The Cams needed to be clamped in place to maintain there position on the timing chains 'in relation to' the crank position. This requires a special clamping tool or some good luck in assembly without clamping.
When you asked about timing, it was assumed you was asking about ignition of which there is no adjustment but cam timing is set at assembly time.
If one cam were off it would affect all the cylinder valve timings on that bank not just front or rear of that bank.
I'm sure you do have issues but who and how they are being addressed is just as big an issue now.
What you do about it at this point, is not here by asking all different questions in a number of threads, but take charge of the situation and get it solved.
We can't do it from behind a computer unless your able to translate advice good or poor, into action. This is all a board can offer.
Good luck to you.

 

my friend and i put timing chains in the engine because they were stretched out and slapping the timing cover. we found a website that said how to do it we did it exactly how they said to. once they were on and the truck back running the engine was ticking and was using a good amount of oil. so we came to the conclusion that it was bent valves. the tick gets louder the more you accelerate it sounds similar to a diesel.

so i have started two different fourms to see if its possible to do a 351 swap and see if i could get it done cheaper in the long run that way witch obviously i cant now that y'all have explained why.

im sorry if im being vague its hard to describe a tick because it sounds like its coming from both heads and where the engine and trans bolt up im also sorry for starting alot of threads im 17 and trying to fix my truck i have very little income and have a daughter to provide for on top of that and need a vehicle.

i recently have found a 5.4 that i can get for a decent price it was running when pulled the reason it was pulled because it was misfiring and the guy thinks it might be because of a head but wasn't sure but stated that it didn't tick or make any noise it just had a miss so i planed on taking the heads to a shop to get checked out

is there any websites that explain how to set the timing and what the heads need to torqued to thanks

 

If you feel there are bent valves, they won't seal against the valve seats.
A compression test should verify that condition and unsual sounds come from the exhaust at idle when listening at the tail pipe..
Misstimed camshafts should also cause a lack of power if cams were retarded or some extra torque and compression if advanced providing there is no mechanical interference with piston tops that causes damage, not to mention misstimed fuel injection caused by the cam sensor triggering at the wrong time.
Only way for you is to become very familuar with your engine so you know how to work on it correctly.
There is no room for guessing, short cuts etc because it cost you in the end.
Get a copy of the Haynes service book at the local auto store for the 97-03 F150. It has about all you need to know for working on your engine at about $20 +/-.
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I don't remember if it was this board or another where an owner rebuilt his engine with considerable investment. When he started it it came apart inside and damaged a lot of items internally all because he did not torque bolts on the camshaft assembly as I recall.
He was a hell of a sport about it, and learned to know what is supposed to be done and to only stop assembly at a "safe stopping point" so nothing is forgotten to cause the grief and expense.
This is the only way I know how to help you by talking to you about what your trying to do.
Good luck.
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thank you for the advice i have came to this conclusion because it shouldn't have been this easy to put in time like this website said so im sure it bent vavles because it wasnt put in time correct