Notices
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator 1997 - 2002 and 2003 - 2006 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator Discussion

2005 Expy P0174 and P0301 Error Code Help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 02:24 PM
  #1  
026TB4U's Avatar
026TB4U
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Davie, FL
2005 Expy P0174 and P0301 Error Code Help

I just got a AutoXray 700 CodeScout and pulled two codes.

P0174 - System Too Lean (Bank 2)
P0301 - Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected

Can I get some advise on how to fix the above codes?

My plugs were changed about a year ago, so I'm thinking the misfire is a bad cop. Not sure about the lean condition.

Any ideas?
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 02:31 PM
  #2  
5.4T's Avatar
5.4T
Elder User
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
well the lean could be cause by the coil pack not burnning the fuel correctly but it can also be a bad o2sensor check under the truck it could have gotten unpluged mine was.
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 03:12 PM
  #3  
026TB4U's Avatar
026TB4U
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Davie, FL
Originally Posted by 5.4T
well the lean could be cause by the coil pack not burnning the fuel correctly but it can also be a bad o2sensor check under the truck it could have gotten unpluged mine was.
I was planning on replacing the COP, so I guess we'll see what happens to the lean condition after that.

Can you tell me where the O2 sensor is? Wouldn't that come up as being bad on the scanner?
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:25 PM
  #4  
alloro's Avatar
alloro
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 24,323
Likes: 5,133
From: 0,0,1
Club FTE Gold Member
Bank 2 is the driver's side. There are 2 O2 sensors, one before and one after the catalytic converter. The one before is the one you want to get at.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 02:30 PM
  #5  
026TB4U's Avatar
026TB4U
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Davie, FL
Originally Posted by alloro
Bank 2 is the driver's side. There are 2 O2 sensors, one before and one after the catalytic converter. The one before is the one you want to get at.
Thanks, I will check that.

I picked up another code today on my way to work. It is:

P0308 - Cylinder 8 Misfire Detected

Also, can someone confirm the cylinder order below is correct?

Radiator
5 1
6 2
7 3
8 4
Firewall

Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 11:24 PM
  #6  
alloro's Avatar
alloro
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 24,323
Likes: 5,133
From: 0,0,1
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by 026TB4U
Also, can someone confirm the cylinder order below is correct?

Radiator
5 1
6 2
7 3
8 4
Firewall
Confirmed, you have it correct. I trust you took notice that #8 is on bank 2!
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 09:02 AM
  #7  
026TB4U's Avatar
026TB4U
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Davie, FL
Originally Posted by alloro
Confirmed, you have it correct. I trust you took notice that #8 is on bank 2!
Thanks for the confirmation. I cleared the codes and the cylinder #1 and #8 codes came back. I have not seen the lean condition again, but I am going to check the O2 and change the fuel filter.

How hard is it to replace COP #8? It's way back but it looks unobstructed.
 
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2012 | 01:09 AM
  #8  
alloro's Avatar
alloro
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 24,323
Likes: 5,133
From: 0,0,1
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by 026TB4U
How hard is it to replace COP #8?
A little time and a little patience and it's not so bad. I know you changed them only a year ago but you might want to change the spark plug while you have the COP out, just in case it's a bum spark plug.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Apr 19, 2012 | 03:09 PM
  #9  
026TB4U's Avatar
026TB4U
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Davie, FL
Originally Posted by alloro
A little time and a little patience and it's not so bad. I know you changed them only a year ago but you might want to change the spark plug while you have the COP out, just in case it's a bum spark plug.
I replaced Cop #8 last night. A majority of the misfiring is gone. I am still getting some low rpm misfiring but no codes have been returned. I may try replacing #1 since that was the only other misfiring code I received.

The dealer replaced the plugs, so if the COPS don't fix the problem, it is going back to them.
 
Reply
Old Apr 20, 2012 | 07:38 AM
  #10  
026TB4U's Avatar
026TB4U
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Davie, FL
Problem solved!!!

I replaced my #1 COP last night. Low RPM misfires are gone and power is smooth all the way up to redline.

Thanks for all the help.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
anthony08
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
3
Oct 16, 2014 12:20 AM
Big Bald
2004 - 2008 F150
5
Jun 24, 2011 07:35 PM
ScottInTexas
1997 - 2003 F150
2
Sep 7, 2008 08:04 AM
imnotdrunk79
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
9
Oct 2, 2005 12:39 AM
nightme_02
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
7
Jul 28, 2005 10:35 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:54 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE