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Old 04-12-2012, 01:44 PM
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Tig Welder Question

I know you get what you pay for but.....

I was looking at this TIG welder on Ebay and was wondering if anyone had used a type like this:

200 AMP DC TIG INVERTER WELDING WELDER HF ARC STARTING DIGITAL LCD TIG200 | eBay

I really want a Miller Diversion 180 but it will be over $2,000 all said and done and for the occasional once in awhile use. I am not opening a fab shop or planning on using this to make money. Its for my own personal use.

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What do you guys think? If there is something comporable in the middle let me know.

This is one of those I dont NEED it, I WANT it. I dont plan on doing anything heavier than 1/8 or 3/16 with the tig. I have a mig for heavier metal. I would like to learn how to use it because the welds are much cleaner.
 
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:15 PM
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Alot of those welders and plasma cutters are made in Italy. I say this because I had a cheap brand plasma cutter that was made in Italy and it worked great. It is is in my buddy's shop now because he gave me a bigger machine that was to big for what he was cutting. I know others will disagree but it will do just about any welding you need to do. If you are already a TIG welder you may want to save up for your dream machine but if you are a newbie I say buy it and learn/improve your skills until you need the fancier machine. My TIG is probably about 25-30 years old and works fine. Do I want a newer machine with all the adjutable parameters, YES, but the money is better spent else where at this point.

I say get it.
 
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Dave you can also look at Eastwood.
 
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I will check Eastwood out for sure. The way I look at it is I still have to buy the cylinder and cart anyways. I have never tig welded before but when I bought my plasma cutter I was glad I went with the miller xtteme 375, I live it. I don't use it much, maybe once a month, but I never worry about it not working. I just wasn't sure the reliability of these cheap foreign machines.

I agree, money is much better spent in other places right now.
 
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I did a quick check on google (not good) I'd save up and buy a brand you know you can trust Miller,Lincoln,Hobart etc. and the ones from are probably not bad at all (depending on delivery cost)
Just my opinion of coarse
 
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:31 PM
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Just checked out eastwood, they have a 200amp tig welder for $900 that seems like a great deal. I could be wrong but I am thinking for the price and the fact this is 200 amp and does aluminum this is a great deal.

The miller I was looking at is 180 amp and was double the price.

You guys think the eastwood one is the way to go?
 
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All of the reviews I have read on Eastwood have been good, but I don't have any first hand knowledge.
 
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I have used the Eastwood machine and it works well, has the adjustments you need, I'd buy it. From the layout and design, I believe the Eastwood is made by or is a very good clone of a Lincoln. That cheap one is really an arc torch not a true TIG welder, note there is no gas regulator. don't waste your time or money.

Don't buy a cart! It's a perfect welding practice project!
 
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At least you will be able to get consumables,parts and service are good too or their good name would soon be worthless .
 
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Speaking of consumables....can I get these at a local welding store or are these specific to eastwood?
 
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Just an FYI, you can get the Miller Diversion 180 for about $1800 and the 165 for $1300 shipped from Cyberweld. There is also a Hobart version of the 165 for $1250 or it's available at Tractor Supply.
 
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I am really torn between the miller 180 and 165, someone suggested looking into the eastwood 200 though. I really want to explore all my options and make the best choice.

Thanks guys. Still not sure what way to go...
 
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Like I said, I teach welding, have used the Eastwood. If I was in the market for a TIG tomorrow, I'd buy the Eastwood without thinking about it. If you are going to be doing a lot of out of position welding (welding done while standing or laying down, overhead, etc) you might find a torch with a finger control more convenient than a pedal.
Consumables are standard. You do want a dedicated grinder for tig tungstens tho, don't use one that has been used for any other metal.
 
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:02 PM
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Thanks AX Racer, I have never used one before and just figured that different machines had their own unique consumable parts.

You seem to feel pretty confident about the eastwood, It must be worth it. Thanks!
 
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Dave, I bought a Miller SD180 Syncrowave tig welder about eight years ago and it was a great unit. I was able to weld very light gauge steel and it also had the ability to weld aluminum. After about a year, I found that I never used it. My mig welder is a miller mig 175 and although I can't weld aluminum (unless I adapt a spool gun somehow), I can still weld 20 gauge sheet with it (which is pretty darn thin).
I had over $2K. into the tig (including welding rods, collets, cups, a variety of tungsden electrodes, and a bottle of argon (you'd need a 50/50 mix of argon and helium). The syncrowave was nice because it used a foot control which made starting the weld very easy.
I see these for sale on craigslist occationally so you may want to keep your eyes open on there. I would stick with Miller, Hobart, Lincoln, or Esab because finding consumables for the "off brand" machines is a problem. The Miller Maxstar line is pretty decent too (and smaller to manuever).
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