Notices

Fouled plugs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 27, 2012 | 06:47 PM
  #1  
HogTied's Avatar
HogTied
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
From: Centerton, AR
Thumbs down Fouled plugs

I have a 77 460 in a 77 F150. No modifications besides Hedman headers, Flowmaster exhaust, Edelbrock 1406 carb, and Ford Racing plug wires that are a mile too long. I'm running Autolite APP25 platinum plugs. I've been struggling to tune my carb's idle mixture, but it's tuned well in all other aspects. I'm having serious soot buildup on spark plugs nearest the front of my engine, especially those on the driver's side. The rear most plugs aren't even a golden brown color (like they should be). They're bright white and look brand new. The rear most on the passenger side are also white, but not as bad.

Any idea what could be causing this? It should be noted i do not make short trips anywhere. It's very frustrating since I'm trying to make this my reliable backup pickup once again.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 04:05 PM
  #2  
ArdWrknTrk's Avatar
ArdWrknTrk
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 23,576
Likes: 39
From: EXTREME southwest CT
Club FTE Silver Member

Oxygenated gas doesn't show the same tan color as the full hydrocarbon gasoline of days gone by.
Plus the "nitrogen scouring agents" and other additives of some brands...

You need an illuminated loupe to see the ring way down (up?) at the base of the porcelain.
Ideally you would weld a test bung into the header and check with a wideband O2 meter.

If your plugs look sooty (fluffy) then you're too rich.
If the deposits are merely black, you might try going to a hotter plug.

I'm not one for fancy plugs or wires, so I really can't speak about that.
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 06:59 PM
  #3  
HogTied's Avatar
HogTied
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
From: Centerton, AR
1 reply after 2 days??? Wow, this forum has gone downhill big time.
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 07:57 PM
  #4  
critterf1's Avatar
critterf1
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,057
Likes: 2
From: Newport, N.C.
How does it run/perform?
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2012 | 01:26 PM
  #5  
bobbyjo9's Avatar
bobbyjo9
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
I havent heard anything good about platnum plugs in these dinosaurs... I run the autolight coppers with no issue
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2012 | 02:07 PM
  #6  
mustangman's Avatar
mustangman
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
you are running to lean,richen up the mixture till u get them tan
 
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2012 | 03:46 PM
  #7  
HogTied's Avatar
HogTied
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
From: Centerton, AR
Originally Posted by mustangman
you are running to lean,richen up the mixture till u get them tan
Are you crazy? -edited for content MB-
 

Last edited by monsterbaby; Mar 31, 2012 at 05:41 PM. Reason: was insulting
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2012 | 05:41 PM
  #8  
monsterbaby's Avatar
monsterbaby
Hotshot
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 18,423
Likes: 9
From: iowa
Insults are not necessary in here.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 10:21 AM
  #9  
HogTied's Avatar
HogTied
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
From: Centerton, AR
Originally Posted by monsterbaby
Insults are not necessary in here.
Neither are helpful replies, apparently.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 12:14 AM
  #10  
redmondjp's Avatar
redmondjp
Tuned
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 464
Likes: 5
From: Redmond, WA USA
It sounds like you are getting a wide variation in air-fuel mixture between the front and rear of the engine. This could be due to a vacuum leak - some vacuum ports connect in at the back of the engine/intake manifold (at least on the stock manifolds, not sure what you have on there now).

The vacuum leak could be causing a lean mixture for the rear cylinders.

Just one possibility.

I second the idea of using an O2 sensor and gauge. They are so inexpensive these days that there is no reason not to have one with a carburated engine. It eliminates a lot of guesswork.

If you have access to a secondary high voltage tester or oscilloscope, you can infer the fuel mixture by the firing voltage - the leaner the mixture, the higher the firing voltage necessary to fire the plug.

The base firing voltage depends upon the length of the wire (resistance) and the plug gap. I would guesstimate that your idle kV readings would be between 6 and 10kV (and all eight cylinders should be within a few kV of each other). If you have a lean cylinder, you may see 15-25kV. You can choke off the carb and watch the kV readings change.

I have a clamp-on kV tester that I bought for under $100 that is one of the most useful diagnostic tools I have in my box. I use it on everything from my cars to my lawn mowers and chain saws.

Good luck!
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Boss_hoss
Modular V10 (6.8l)
3
Mar 4, 2010 05:57 PM
chris-danielle
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
18
Feb 5, 2009 07:11 AM
jessman1128
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
13
Sep 29, 2008 04:31 PM
Omeagher460
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
May 3, 2008 11:08 PM
tenptbuck7mmmag
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
10
Mar 21, 2006 07:00 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:43 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE