Big Load - and first problem
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Big Load - and first problem
So I loaded the truck up for the first time with a load of (fresh) firewood. It was full. And heavy. My estimate is close to 2,000 lbs, as the wood was rather wet.
Truck handled the load fine - except one thing: I got a pretty severe shudder on every take-off. With no load, the truck takes off as smooth as it gets, and the shudder was gone after unloading.
Has anybody else seen this, especially with the HD payload option?
It is not a deal breaker or anything, but a little annoying, especially since I suspect it will be there also when I tow the trailer. AT least it's not an issue when empty - at least not for now. If that was there all the time - that would be bad, as the shudder was pretty hefty, the truck was shaking it's **** pretty good.
Truck handled the load fine - except one thing: I got a pretty severe shudder on every take-off. With no load, the truck takes off as smooth as it gets, and the shudder was gone after unloading.
Has anybody else seen this, especially with the HD payload option?
It is not a deal breaker or anything, but a little annoying, especially since I suspect it will be there also when I tow the trailer. AT least it's not an issue when empty - at least not for now. If that was there all the time - that would be bad, as the shudder was pretty hefty, the truck was shaking it's **** pretty good.
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I don't have Max Tow, or HD package but my truck does the same thing when towing. I've been told it's from the double drive shafts. It makes sense to me, but I don't know for sure. My truck does it to about 25 mph.
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Thanks, Juneau & efx4!
I don't think it's rubbing - it did sag a bit, but looked about level. With the tires rubbing, I'd also not expect it on take-off only, the shudder was gone at > 5 mph or so.
efx, the drive shaft would make sense. I can live with it - if it does not get worse and/or start doing it unloaded. How many miles do you have on your truck, and has the shudder changed over time?
I don't think it's rubbing - it did sag a bit, but looked about level. With the tires rubbing, I'd also not expect it on take-off only, the shudder was gone at > 5 mph or so.
efx, the drive shaft would make sense. I can live with it - if it does not get worse and/or start doing it unloaded. How many miles do you have on your truck, and has the shudder changed over time?
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Okay, I am on page 9 of 18 on that other thread that's linked above - and it does not look promising.
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So I loaded the truck up for the first time with a load of (fresh) firewood. It was full. And heavy. My estimate is close to 2,000 lbs, as the wood was rather wet.
Truck handled the load fine - except one thing: I got a pretty severe shudder on every take-off. With no load, the truck takes off as smooth as it gets, and the shudder was gone after unloading.
Has anybody else seen this, especially with the HD payload option?
It is not a deal breaker or anything, but a little annoying, especially since I suspect it will be there also when I tow the trailer. AT least it's not an issue when empty - at least not for now. If that was there all the time - that would be bad, as the shudder was pretty hefty, the truck was shaking it's **** pretty good.
Truck handled the load fine - except one thing: I got a pretty severe shudder on every take-off. With no load, the truck takes off as smooth as it gets, and the shudder was gone after unloading.
Has anybody else seen this, especially with the HD payload option?
It is not a deal breaker or anything, but a little annoying, especially since I suspect it will be there also when I tow the trailer. AT least it's not an issue when empty - at least not for now. If that was there all the time - that would be bad, as the shudder was pretty hefty, the truck was shaking it's **** pretty good.
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So I loaded the truck up for the first time with a load of (fresh) firewood. It was full. And heavy. My estimate is close to 2,000 lbs, as the wood was rather wet.
Truck handled the load fine - except one thing: I got a pretty severe shudder on every take-off. With no load, the truck takes off as smooth as it gets, and the shudder was gone after unloading.
Has anybody else seen this, especially with the HD payload option?
It is not a deal breaker or anything, but a little annoying, especially since I suspect it will be there also when I tow the trailer. AT least it's not an issue when empty - at least not for now. If that was there all the time - that would be bad, as the shudder was pretty hefty, the truck was shaking it's **** pretty good.
Truck handled the load fine - except one thing: I got a pretty severe shudder on every take-off. With no load, the truck takes off as smooth as it gets, and the shudder was gone after unloading.
Has anybody else seen this, especially with the HD payload option?
It is not a deal breaker or anything, but a little annoying, especially since I suspect it will be there also when I tow the trailer. AT least it's not an issue when empty - at least not for now. If that was there all the time - that would be bad, as the shudder was pretty hefty, the truck was shaking it's **** pretty good.
Had the same issue with my 250 when I had the 5th wheel on. Installed air springs to keep the truck at it's unloaded height. Problem dissappeared.
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Yeah, I read through the other thread, and I am sure it's axle wrap. Some Toyotas experience the same thing, I had that with my Tacoma sometimes.
Comparing to what people describe in that other thread, what I have is very minor. Unloaded there is no problem at all. Considering that, I'll probably do nothing for now, and will be watching it, especially my first tow. I think the stiffer HD payload springs keep this from happening when empty, and my load was really heavy while the shudder wasn't all that bad considering what others have seen. No problem in second (or any other) gear either.
Only one thing seems to be for sure: talking to the dealer about this appears to be a waste of time.
Comparing to what people describe in that other thread, what I have is very minor. Unloaded there is no problem at all. Considering that, I'll probably do nothing for now, and will be watching it, especially my first tow. I think the stiffer HD payload springs keep this from happening when empty, and my load was really heavy while the shudder wasn't all that bad considering what others have seen. No problem in second (or any other) gear either.
Only one thing seems to be for sure: talking to the dealer about this appears to be a waste of time.
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Axle wrap is a common problem in today's trucks because people want a truck that rides like a car. Longer springs give the car like ride but when load heavy can have the wrap problem. The easiest way to combat the problem is with air bags or overload springs.
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A dealer can fix the problem by lowering the drive shaft possibly or adjusting the pinion angle. Fixing the problem with a load may create a problem unloaded. In my opinion a small amount of axle wrap is acceptable. Was your load actually 1 ton or more? I rarely hear customers complain about axle wrap with F150s. On 250s and 350s it is a common complaint for owners with truck campers and 5th wheel trailers on 2008 and newer trucks. The older trucks like mine had shorter springs.
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I have not been to any dealer, and I don't really plan to go to see one for this. 
Thanks everybody who chimed in!