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Old 03-20-2012, 04:21 PM
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What are they wanting you to upgrade?
Here is another informative link. Lots of info on this site.
Diesel Activities - Mobile Vehicles and Equipment

The regulations appear to be pretty far reaching. Looks like they even have rules in place for things such as back up generators and such. I especially like the part where it says that school buses have to be a certain distance away from school property within 30 seconds of starting their engines. I wonder how they are going to enforce that one?

We have to have remote start and stop switches on our booms since we aren't allowed to let the engine idle any longer. Most of our trucks have them anyway so it's not a bid deal in this case.
 
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How do they figure that a dpf will work on a electronic injection diesel for which they were not designed. Its not like they have ability to regenerate the dpf. I guess this is what happens when idiots that have no idea about a subject make the laws.
 
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:28 PM
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Those are the same people who are chocking flow of new technology to this country.
Mercedes diesel owners with new models are joking that their cars in LA and SF traffic exhaust cleaner air, than they suck.
 
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I agree. Too much focus on all these little things. In Europe their diesels aren't so chocked. I guess they figure if they get better fuel mileage they will put out less overall emissions then one that gets worse like here.
 
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:13 AM
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Everything you'd ever want to know (or didn't want to know) about the CARB retrofit requirements can be found here on CARB'S WEBSITE.

These regulations are killing the trucking industry here in CA and CARB could care less.

EDIT: Heres a bit more info.

The regulation requires diesel trucks and buses that operate in California to be upgraded to reduce emissions. Heavier trucks must be retrofitted with PM filters beginning January 1, 2012, and older trucks must be replaced starting January 1, 2015. By January 1, 2023, nearly all trucks and buses will need to have 2010 model year engines or equivalent.

The regulation applies to nearly all privately and federally owned diesel fueled trucks and buses and to privately and publicly owned school buses with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) greater than 14,000 pounds. Small fleets with 3 or fewer diesel trucks can delay compliance for heavier trucks by reporting and there are a number of extensions for low-mileage construction trucks, early PM filter retrofits, adding cleaner vehicles, and other situations. Privately and publicly owned school buses have different requirements.
 
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So what would happen to one of us non-residents if we drove into the state on vacation with one of diesel trucks?? Are they gonna chase us out? Only let us drive "xx" miles in the state and then have to leave??
 
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Originally Posted by Shake-N-Bake
If you are talking about the Clean Diesel regulations, that only applies to commercial vehicles. If your truck is for personal use then you should be exempt if your GVWR is under a certain weight.

A few weeks ago, we got a nasty letter from the California motor vehicle department regarding our fleet vehicles. They are giving us until 4/1/12 to upgrade our 1999 model or older (diesel) trucks or get them out of the state. It's been a hassle for sure. We should make the deadline though...
Greg, just let me know, I can make a quick California trip to pick up a new to me 7.3 bucket truck.... you know.... if your giving them away.....
 
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:30 AM
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So what would happen to one of us non-residents if we drove into the state on vacation with one of diesel trucks?? Are they gonna chase us out? Only let us drive "xx" miles in the state and then have to leave??
The way the regs read right now.....if you are form some other state you must comply with the CARB regulations if you want to operate in California. If you do not retrofit your exhaust, or upgrade the engine to a 2010 or newer, or buy a new truck, then they will give you a 3 day pass to travel in the state once per year.

I can not believe that the Feds haven't stepped forward and advise CARB that they can not hinder interstate commerce by imposing a state regulation on someone that does not live here.
 
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I can not believe that the FMCSA hasn't stepped forward and advise CARB that they can not hinder interstate commerce by imposing a state regulation on someone that does not live her
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FMCSA regulates commercial vehicle safety, not environmental issues. Not much they can do about it.
Not to mention, FMCSA isn't really opposed to hindering commerce, they do a pretty good job of that themselves. .
 
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Greg, just let me know, I can make a quick California trip to pick up a new to me 7.3 bucket truck.... you know.... if your giving them away.....
Not give away, but I have seen 1992 semi truck with dump body sold for $4500. Not really cosmetic, but drove just fine.
 
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Originally Posted by kd0axs
FMCSA regulates commercial vehicle safety, not environmental issues.
You are correct, and my post has been edited. I was thinking one thing and typing something else early this AM before dashing out of the house.

It is the US Supreme Court that could eventually get to decide if this regulation hinders interstate commerce or not, if someone decided to take it that far. It falls under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.

Here is a some info that I dug up about the Dormant Commerce Clause. The top 2/3rds of the web page certainly give you something to thing about.
 
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